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Re: Oil filter for W27?

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  • Martin
    Jer, I have the Wix 51334 installed on my W27A. No issues. Martin
    Message 1 of 86 , Nov 30, 2010
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      Jer,
      I have the Wix 51334 installed on my W27A. No issues.

      Martin

      --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "oldsailor36@..." <oldsailor36@...> wrote:
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      > Jim,
      >
      > I looked into a WIX replacement filter awhile back. My W P/N 36918 has a WIX equivalent: P/N 51334. That WIX filter is specd' by them for everything from Hondas to excavating machines...a seemingly universal filter. I still had a W filter so I checked the dimensions for this supposed equivalent filter and found that the WIX filter was 3.2 in. high, as opposed to the 2.5 in. of the Westerbeke while the diameter of the WIX was 3.25 in. as opposed to the 3.0 in. of the Westerbeke.
      >
      > The oil filter on my engine is snugly fitted in such that I have just enough room to change it. Going to the larger WIX "equivalent" would be a tighter fit which may or may not be a problem. But since I would be discovering this while changing the filter, and not in a mood for surprises at those times, I still popped for the extra few bucks for the Westerbeke.
      >
      > I'm pretty sure that if I were to get the WIX filter in there it would probably be OK but then how would I know? How would I know that the pressure relief valve setting is not too high or that the filter media is a tad more porous or that it didn't collapse? How do you know that the WIX guy that said its OK really checked to see if it was really OK or didn't just decide that it was close enough?
      >
      > Jer
      >
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      >
      >
      > --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "josrulz_2001" <josrulz_2001@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Thanks everyone.
      > >
      > > So is it safe to assume then that no one feels that there's any reason to stick with the Westerbeke filters?
      > >
      > > I agree re: Fram--I don't use them on my cars either. Usually, I use PureOne.
      > >
      > > Thanks again,
      > > Jim
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, Carter Brey <carter.brey@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Westerbeke #36918 = Wix #51334 = Purolator #L14459
      > > >
      > > > Cheers,
      > > > CB
      > > >
      > > > On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 23:18 +0000, josrulz_2001 wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi all,
      > > > > I'm getting ready to change the oil on our Westerbeke W27 before
      > > > > winterizing. I realize I can order the Westerbeke filter from one of
      > > > > the various parts suppliers for Westerbeke engines. That said, is
      > > > > there a good cross reference for alternative filters? I'm all for
      > > > > using filters that are well-made and correct for the application. I'm
      > > > > not looking for something cheap, just perhaps more readily available.
      > > > >
      > > > > Does everyone here use Westerbeke filters?
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks!
      > > > > -Jim
      > > > >
      > > > > 1984 Sabre 34, #207
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > > --
      > > > Carter Brey
      > > > Principal Cellist, New York Philharmonic
      > > > Faculty, The Curtis Institute of Music
      > > >
      > >
      >
    • john kalinowski
      stick in the Hurths are in middle (checked it out the first time I did mine).   john ... From: Bruce Heyman Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat]
      Message 86 of 86 , Dec 6, 2010
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        stick in the Hurths are in middle (checked it out the first time I did mine).
         
        john

        --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman@...> wrote:

        From: Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman@...>
        Subject: Re: [SabreSailboat] Re: Oil filter for W27?
        To: Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 9:21 AM

         
        Harry,
        Do you suppose maybe the dip sticks were designed for a level engine and ours are mounted on an angle?
        Bruce

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        From: sailor11767 <HarryK@...>
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        Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com
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        Mon, Dec 6, 2010 13:03:23 GMT+00:00
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        [SabreSailboat] Re: Oil filter for W27?

         
        Be VERY careful with this! With my engine, a Volvo MDIIC, it would be very dangerous. I haven't had my engine very long, and am part-way through my third oil change. "Part-way" because I'm doing some work in conjunction.

        The MD11 is a 3-quart engine. In previous oil changes, I've pumped out the oil through the dipstick, and then added back in 3 quarts. Both prior changes I noticed that when I add 3 quarts, I'm over the full line, although I've not worried about it (bad, I know). Well, this year, I pumped out the oil through the dipstick, and it came a little over the 3 quart line on the oil jug I put it in. Yeah, I know, it's overfull. Now for the bad part.

        This weekend, with the crankcase "empty" I slipped a pan, perhaps 5 x 7, and maybe 1.5" high, under the back drain plug, and wrestled the plug out (not an easy job!). The remaining oil drained out. And drained out. And drained out. My pan is still there under the engine because I have to go back down there with a pump to drain some off. The pan is full to 1/8" of overflowing! I'm interested in knowing how much oil that is, but I'm guessing nearly a quart.

        The point here is that I thought I was doing an oil change -- but was really doing an "oil dilution." If any kind of flushing fluid was added, it would have stayed in the engine after the oil change. If you can't get ALL of the oil out, any flushing fluid will significantly affect the engine after the oil change.

        The other point here is that the dipstick is a bad oil change plan. The project I'm doing is the addition of a low-point oil drain -- all future changes will be pumped out of the bottom of the sump.

        Harry
        Rantum Scoot
        '79 S34-I #063
        Luce Creek, Annapolis

        --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, "smofishlaw" <stephen.ouellette@...> wrote:
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        > One other option is, after draining the oil, run a lighter weight of oil like mystery oil or kerosene, and use it to flush the drain hose. Make sure you let all of this run out before you fill the engine with regualr oil. A friend did this last week and had positive result.
        > I have the same slow drain hose issue-I just let it drain into a flat oil change pan, and wait...
        >


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