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Re: [SabreSailboat] Ultimate Sole

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  • The Aviation Buff
    Hello Peter, Very interested to hear your further experience with Ultimate Sole as I too am considering it. Foster Adams Valkyrie
    Message 1 of 32 , Jun 1, 2009
      Hello Peter,
      Very interested to hear your further experience with Ultimate Sole as I too am considering it.
      Foster Adams

      From: vanbeckump <vanbeckump@...>
      To: Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:08:14 PM
      Subject: [SabreSailboat] Ultimate Sole

      I sprung for this stuff but haven't used it yet. I smell a rat though. Fist was the quart of Ultimate Sole "waterless cleaner" I bought for a price so high I have pushed it put of memory. The DSM or whatever you call the health sheet included states that it is >99% Naptha. Pretty expensive Naptha. The next suspicion is that the instructions say to wet sand the final coat of finish with 220 grit. I suspect that sanding gloss polyurethane with 220 might make it not so slippery too.

      Have I paid big bucks for a non-slip technique printed on a can of ordinary polyurethane?

      Peter van Beckum

    • Dan Trainor
      Wow, great information Pete, thanks! ... -- Dan
      Message 32 of 32 , Jul 1, 2013
        Wow, great information Pete, thanks!

        On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Peter Tollini <sabre30@...> wrote:

        I've gotten to know  Daly's varnish guru in Seattle from refinishing my interior with SeaFin last year. I just asked him about the US dilemma.  He said, "That's easy - take any good polyurethane and add some boiled linseed oil to it. That will give you a softer finish. I'm sure that's how the Ultimate Sole folks did it. We've been doing that for years."
        He said 3-4 tablespoons per quart is a good place to start.  I'm going to start with a quart of poly and a scrap piece of plywood and try it plain, then after adding 2 tbsp, then more until it's right.
        So much for magic formulas.


        On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Dave Lochner <davelochner@...> wrote:

        Before Ultimate Sole went out of business, I talked one of the owners. As he explained it, US was a polyurethane finish that was a bit softer and therefore "stickier" than modern formulations that are harder and more durable. You could probably overcoat the US with any decent quality polyurethane.


        On Jul 1, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Dan Trainor wrote:


        What if I have to put another top coat refreasher on several years from now?  I would not have any Ulitimate Sole product left to use.  And anyway I don't know what the product is or what it is compatible with.  Maybe someone else knows.

        On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:14 PM, jack horner <captbluwater@...> wrote:

        I have used Ultimate Sole on my S 28 deck I just love the results , and  the stuff is bullet proof.. Yes use it as a top coat !
        To bad its not made any more..  Lee Nicholas

        From: walkabout193 <lbertaux@...>
        To: Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:19 PM
        Subject: [SabreSailboat] Re: Ultimate Sole

        I tried Bristol Finish for my cabin sole a few seasons back. Its a two part polyurethane. Seems to be a fairly durable and hard finish. We're not particularly protective of our sole and I'd say it has done a decent job. Use with proper ventilation and solvent masks if you decide to apply this product. Fumes are fairly noxious.

        Len Bertaux

        --- In Sabresailboat@yahoogroups.com, Dan Trainor <dptrainor@...> wrote:
        > I have a question. I put on the Ultimate Sole "Sanding Sealer" coats a
        > couple years ago but have not yet put on Ultimate Sole Poly top coat.
        > Should I use my can of Ultimate Sole Poly for top coats or would it be
        > better to use something else like those listed above?
        > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Phillip Shepard <
        > phillipshepard97@...> wrote:
        > > **
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > They went out of business several years ago. My understanding is that
        > > any polyurethane is compatible. I remember reading somewhere that Ultimate
        > > Sole was really an old polyurethane formula. I have heard recommendations
        > > on Cabot Oil poly, Fabulon, Daly's Floor Finish, and Waterlox. Someone
        > > recommended 1850 fast drying poly. I would prefer to follow the advise of
        > > someone on this forum as most of us are looking for the best product.
        > >
        > > Phil
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > --
        > Dan


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