- Shlomo JohnnyThanks for the reply & attachments. Self went through the attachments and it is very interesting. What Pastor A. Ploughman tries to say and what we (OO) believe is same. Just have a look on these saying of St. Cyril of Alexandria.�For even if the Only-Begotten Son of God, incarnate and inhominate, is said by us to be one, he is not confused because of this, as he seems to those people, nor has the nature of the Word passed over into the nature of the flesh, nor indeed has the nature of the flesh passed into that which is his, but while each one of them continues together in the particularity that belongs to the nature, and is thought of in accordance with the account which has just been given by us, the inexpressible and ineffable union shows us one nature of the son, but as I have said, incarnate.��Therefore let us recognise that even if the body which was born at Bethlehem is not the same, that is, as far as natural quality is concerned, as the Word which is from God and the Father, yet nevertheless it became his, and did not belong to another man beside the Son. But the Word incarnate is to be considered one Son and Christ and Lord��It is not right that we should make a division into an independent diversity, so that they should become separate and apart from each other; rather we ought to bring them together to undivided union. For the Word became flesh, according to the words of John��'Therefore let us acknowledge that the body which was born at Bethlehem, even if it is not the same - I mean in natural quality - with the Word which is from the Father, yet it became his, and not of some other son beside him. But one Son and Christ and Lord is understood even when the Word became incarnate�So when the priest baptized me In the Name Of trinity (ba- shmo � d � Abo. d � Abro, wad � Ruho hayo qudisho), I am baptized in the name of Jesus our Lord & God.Mathew 28:19, Act 10: 1-6 & Eusebius Of Caesareh all are saying the same.I am so proud. I belong to OO and my forefather�s traditions were exactly as the teaching Our Lord God.In Our Lords LoveThomas DanielFrom the land were Gospel is prohibited.
>From: "Johnny Messo" >To: daniel_reji@... >CC: SOR-Forum@yahoogroups.com >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:13:24 +0200 > >Shlomo Daniel, > >I always enjoy reading your postings. I�m from Holland, but I�m >almost 3 weeks by now in Jerusalem at our monastery staying there >for another 6 weeks. > >About the prayers for peace in Jerusalem, I just came from te >Armenian Cathehdral. From the 15th-28th of August there are prayers, >everyday at 6 pm at a different church. Tomorrow it's at the St. >Mark monastery in the church of the Holy virgin Mary. > >Recently you wrote: >�Tradition is where Christianity and the Bible came from, and >Tradition is what Orthodoxy stuck to, and tradition is what the Lord >passed onto us.� > >Could you have a quick look at Matthew 28:19, where Moran �ashlem >l-talmidaw/passed onto� his disciples commandments which according >to our Syriac-Orthodox tradition were handled down to our early >Christian fathers. > >It is mainly this verse that plays a crucial role in the dogma of >the Trinity (I�m aware of say all the other Trinity proof texts in >the Bible as well) and especially in our liturgy, prayers, etc., >right? For example, the �modo/baptism contains a lot of these kind >of phrases where we baptize our children in the Name of the Holy >Trinity (you know, f.ex., ba-shmo d-Abo, d-Abro, wad-ruHo Hayo >qadisho, etc.). We �do�, so to say, almost everything in the Name of >the Holy Trinity in our churches. > >But my request is actually, if you (hopefully) have time for it, if >you could read the attachment (I hope you can open it and read it) I >found Online in the light of the above given info and share your >opinions with us. So in short, what do you (or others!) think about >that booklet I attached to this mail? > >*l-dilokh aHo ba-mshiHo moran wab-Suryoyutho Oromoyto mshiHoyto* >*Your brother in Christ our Lord, and in the Syriac-Aramaic >Christian nation* > >Thanks in advance, > >Johnny > >PS: about that S-O tradition where the archangel Gabriel greeted >Adam, after he returned from a �journey�, because he thought it was >the Lord God Himself, is in that sense true that is indeed a >Syriac-Orthodox tradition. I forgot actually where it comes from, >maybe someone else can help you with this, it�s already been 5 years >ago or so that I had Bible studies about such subjects! > >Thinking that he greeted the Almighty Himself, the angel Gabriel >said to Adam �barekh mor/bless me, my Lord�, to which Adam replied >�Aloho nbarekh/God bless�; perhaps it could also be translated with >�It is God who blesses (you Gabriel, not me, for I�m but a creation >of The Creator!)� in this context. > >Observe that another famous Syriac-Orthodox tradition lies in the >above, namely that God spoke in Syriac-Aramaic with Adam, and that >our language is accordingly the first language of the world! As most >(Ya�qub d-Urhoy, however, believes that Hebrew is older than >Aramaic). ><< ACloserLookatMatthew2819.htm >>
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