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  • dipu george
    THE CATHOLICOSE CONSECRATION!! from most rev kanyamparambil achen s sabha charithram page 173 Murimattam Mor Paulose Ivanios was consecrated as maphrian by
    Message 1 of 91 , Jul 14, 2002
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      THE CATHOLICOSE CONSECRATION!!

      from most rev kanyamparambil achen's sabha charithram

      page 173

      Murimattam Mor Paulose Ivanios was consecrated as maphrian� by Mor Abdul Massih at niranam.and thus both the consecrator and the consecrated could revenge Moran PAtriach Abdullah II

      As regards this consecration a few facts are worth mentioning. While Mor Abdul Massih was the ruling Patriach , his stern and bold reply to a request for Cathliocose was ; He who writes again for this purpose, would accursed by the Father,Son and Holy Ghost , Further , in his letter to Koja Anton'd. 26 Makaram 1902 he had stated :

      The request from the Indians cannot be complied with� as it is contrary to the canons of the church.

      If one can believ the incidents behind the curtain on the consecration day, he would certainly evaluate the whole procedure as a business contract only The whole stroy is elaborately detailed� by nine other than Fr PT Geevarghis� , the brain behind the whole transaction in his work Giri Deepam

      again in page 180� i quote from achens book

      Fr PT Geevarghese says

      On his way to Mardin Mor Dionysius ( Vattasseril)� had discussions with the bishop of the Uniate Patriach Ephrem Remani at Bagdad concerning his union with the Roman Catholic Church, in case the talks failed at Mardin. On return Vattasseril could not resume talks with the bishop because Mor Julius had accompanied him to Malankara ; that a letter from Rehmani reached Vattasseril at Parumala , that he (FR PT G� later Mor Ivanios) was authorised to send a reply saying Mor dionysius had no objection for union with the Roman catholics. but a final decision was possible only after discussions with the other bishops.Giri Deepam fiurther discloses� that in his letter from Kundara (15 Chingam 1926) Mor Gregorios ( afterwards 3rd catholicose) said that in the letter he recieved from� the 2nd catholicose , there was mentioned the desire for union with any ancient church.and�mor gregorios��( 3rd catholicose) further discloses the he also feels this is good and agree with Mor Ivanios's decisions.

      ( all these underhand dealings led Mor Ivanios alone to the R catholic church and other promoters quitely withdrew)

      now a message to all of the metran kakshis and their supporters in this forum ;

      who was right and who was wrong

      some guys promptly� made a charactyer assasination of patriach Abdullah and tried to canonise Vattasseril and Abdul Massih in their respective articles

      God Forbid that metran kakshis would do the henious deed of canonisation of the Vattasseril Thirumeni!!!

      ...............to be continued

      fasch bshlomo

      dipu george

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      Dear SOCM forum members, According to the Mangalm Daily , the declaration of ordination of Mor Dionysius Thomas as Catholicose of Malankara Jacobite Church is
      Message 91 of 91 , Jul 23, 2002
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        Dear SOCM forum members,

        According to the "Mangalm Daily", the declaration of
        ordination of Mor Dionysius Thomas as Catholicose of
        Malankara Jacobite Church is going to be on 28th Friday.

        Mor Divanyisos and Mor Gregarious are in Damascus. And the
        Church trusty Mr. T. George returned to Kerala.

        News in Malayalam please visit http://www.mangalam.net/

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