RE: [SOCM-FORUM] CHURCH AND POLITICS
- Dear ALL,
Today's world is small due to better communication and trans port. Something
happens any corner of the world it is known to every one through media.
Hence things come to light very fast. People view things and criticize
actions. Pope/bishops no one is exempted. This quarrel and fights were there
always among men.
Roman church persecuted all other Christians for power and
number(popularity). They have forcibly taken our people in India,to their
fold. Same thing they have done
all over the world. But that does not mean there any faithful among them.
There would have been silent, insignificant Gods children among them,who
will inherit heaven.
Why, fight was among the first line of Christ's disciple's .We cannot be
more informed about Christ words and actions than them. We cannot be holier
(Even though we have holier people to whom saint hood awarded as Oscars).
The bishops who came from Syria it took 3-4 years to reach India.Enroute
many died and killed. They were driven and guided by Christian spirit.
Today orthodox people say they came for money.They can not understand any
thing more than money.They are the people who occupy
Church property.They drive God,to court.
Even today our tradition is same and a vast majority of the people live in
the same tradition and devotion. We can see them in our churches
We can see the shine on faces, through Holy Communion they are part of
Christ body, they are Gods children. They are the real Christians.
Dear Kuruvilla do not get disheartened by the who fight, have an eye on
position and ditch each other and say all this
is for Gods sake,prompted by Holy Ghost.Try to emulate the real Gods
From: "kuriakose george"@... [mailto:"kuriakose
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: [SOCM-FORUM] CHURCH AND POLITICS
I read recent posting on this forum about Indian Presidential nomination
(whether PCA, BP, Narayanan, Fr Kallapara etc). I have fully convinced
that I am not at all wrong in my opinion about US ( the great traditional
MALANKARA SYRIAN CHRISTIANS whether it is orthodox/Jacobite)..
- A few days back i have read a mail by Babu Paul calling
Fr.Kallappara Achen "as Kallapara, a village priest with
SSLC & TTC".
I am very sad that a person of such a great knowledge like
Babu Paul, who himself claims, "My postings are , have always
been, in the hands of God; that is why even today 2 years
after retirement I am being used by God." (Posting in SOCM
forum dated, Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:17:41 +0530, write articles
like this. I don't know whether God has given him special
permission to post articles like this in an Internet forum.
May be he responded so cheaply because of his human nature.
Anyhow it will good to read what this Kallapara Achen
(SSLC & TTC in the words of Babu Paul IAS)wrote about Babu Paul
in the book "Keralathile kraisthava Sabakal, Oru Padanam"
(Page 17) published in 1994 by Achen himself. In this book
Kallappara Achen had only praised this Babu Paul IAS
(in a special section).
Now compare the languages & the standards of Babu Paul who
termed Kallapara Achen as a village priest with SSLC & TTC,
with that of the Kallapara Achen who termed Babu Paul as a
great person in that book.
Who is of high standard ? Is that the Babu Paul who have
tons of degrees but using indecent languages to criticize others
and thereby expressing his unwillingness to accept the general
feelings of the common man --- OR ---- is that this
village Priest (in Babu Paul IASs words) who termed this
Babu Paul as a great person ?
Dear Babu Paul Sir, it will be good if you use words wisely,
remember once said it couldnt be taken back unless he is a
- Thank you. Pray for me.
TOTUS TUUS MARIA
----- Original Message -----
From: <Fr. John Kunjukunju>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [SOCM-FORUM] P C Alexander's nomination for Presidency
> My intention here is only to say Dr Babu Paul, well done. If people with
> sense makes their voice, though there will be problems, things will change
> in the long run. Behind every change there is someone made scapegoat.
> My honest opinion is that present patriarchal faction is the only faction
> who completely lost the Christian spirit.
> One open word against the system is enough to ruin the whole thing. It
> rich dividents to me for airing certain frank opinions.
> This is less than a cult. We can only pray. Fr John KK.
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- I strongly feel that , we should not have discussed
the topic in this forum.
--- "DANIEL BABU PAUL"@... wrote:
> yesterday i was in a hurry.
> Reg Kaniamparampil Achan's "experiments with truth"
> you can ask him; I don't
> think he would mind. alternatively you can ask
> Corepiscopa PP Joseph,
> Kottayam. I do not know the exact years,
> Pulickaparampil Achan may remember.