- Dear alex I sympathise with your emotions but I will place before you the other side. 1. You r telling about elections and majority. You may aware that SupreamMessage 1 of 3350 , Oct 28, 2005View SourceDear alex
I sympathise with your emotions but I will place before you the other side.
1. You r telling about elections and majority. You may aware that Supream court of this land has asked to conduct an election of 'malankara metrapolitha 'by malankara association and SC appointed Rtd justice Malimath to supervise elections. At the last moment the present JSOC wing boycotted the association.If your spirit of elections(ie even if somebody won by one vote he will rule) is accepted by your faction such an action should not have happened.
2.I will again come back to u r example of the democracy of this country. Consider in Kerala if all the seats to legislative assembly was won by a single party. Even then can that government declare that they are not the part of India but of some other country .(or formed a new Country) I think No.
3. Again consider that in a Pothuyogam in your church it was decided that Now Church is called 'faith home ' and it will under some IPC/TPC like that ,even if you are a minority whether you will accept that?(On one sunday morning you go to the church for participating in Holy Quarbana and you find that it becomes a faith home ! some pastor is giving sermon !). Even It can happen that some churches may declare independance !(Some black sheeps will be there in all the community and they will take advantage of the situation )
Because once you accept that majority in church pothuyogam can decide the sabha in which the church is a member , then it will be a problem for JSOC also in the long run(In the shorter spell you may think that you are getting some churches)
Even though I am raising this points I will fully appreciate your concerns. How to solve this problem is a big question to be answered . But rediculing the otherside without seeing the real issues may not solve the problem.
St George Orthodox Church Karakkal
Member Id #2316
- Dear Sir, Thanks for the reply and I appreciate that. Nevertheless, I would like to point out few things for your information and kind consideration. (1) Yes,Message 3350 of 3350 , Mar 8 9:35 PMView SourceDear Sir,Thanks for the reply and I appreciate that. Nevertheless, I would like to point out few things for your information and kind consideration.(1) Yes, It is noticed that the calendar is made by Samajam, but let me reiterate its a Church Calendar. I had pointed out this to Mr. Daniel, who made this a year back, but unfortunately I got the reply that this is to be used for Saudi Arabia. I don't think any one in Saudi Arabia use Church Calendar in their offices. Further, if its for Saudi Arabia, that shpuld be with Samajam members and wellwishers, it should not appear in jacobite online's website. Am I making sense?(2) Even our local church calendar in Kerala often makes this mistakes, as they put these dates in Calendars, I believe. How can we justify that, if so.(3) Communal harmony is well and good, but that should not get in to a level which dilutes the basic faith (when I say faith means, its Christian Faith, not church/ community) we adhere to.As a person, I'm so weak and cannot take it to higher hierarchy, but you can.Once again thanks for your reply and I hope my points are clear to you now.RegardsShibu MATHEWID number is 4595
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Shibu Mathew <shibmat@...> wrote:Hello,
It has been noticed for the past couple of years hat the Church Calendar highlights the 'Hijra' dates along with the Gregorian date. Basically there is nothing harmful in first shot, but there is a damage behind that.Hijra year is basically the year Muslims calculate as the year when they received Quran to them. My question, Are we Christians accept and acknowledge the same?St. Pauls says to Galatians 1: 9 "As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."Keeping this in mind; how do we highlight Hijri year? Let normal calendar carry it for business reasons, but Church Calendar shall not...Please express yourself with comments....Rgds
Shibu MATHEWID number is 4595---------------------From the desk of moderatorsThis calender was prepared and distributed by our congregation (SAMJAM) in Saudi Arabia. For their own reasons they included the "Hijra" dates.