- Shlomo Rajesh:
You are entitled to your opinions and interpretation of scripture,
but I would like you to consider the following:
1. St. Paul rebukes the early Christians, not the early Fathers of
the Church. That is not to say that the early fathers were
infallible. But by the same token, the apostles and disciples of
Christ some of whom authored the books of the New Testament were not
either. We find St. Peter betraying Christ (Matt 26:69), St. James
and John seeking positions of pre-eminence (Mark 10:37), St. Thomas
expressing unbelief at the ressurection (John 20:25), St. Paul
anticipating an imminent second coming (I Cor 15:51), St. Matthew in
his zeal to proclaim Christ as the fulfiller of prophecies, seating
Christ both on a donkey and a colt on his Entry into Jerusalem (Matt
21:7, as fulfilment of Zach 9:9), other inconsistencies between the
Gospel accounts, etc. We cannot accept the New Testament as scripture
and completely disregard the teachings and traditions of the Holy
Fathers of the Church, which elaborate and interpret the word of
truth with authority.
2. The evolution of New Testament as scripture from a large body of
writings happened much after the era of the Apostles and the
Disciples. The early Fathers of the Church in the second century
accepted some of the writings as authentic part of the scripture,
rejecting many, and considering others as apocryphal. In fact, this
resulted in variant canons of the scripture varied among different
Churches. To this day, for instance, the Syriac Orthodox Church as
well other Oriental churches consider the Book of Revelation as
apocryphal and not part of the accepted canon of the New Testament.
The authenticity of Acts authored by St. Luke was of course never in
doubt. However, the point is that the very fathers you appear to
minimize were responsible for the selection of the writings that
today form what we know as the New Testament. You may argue that the
writings that made it into the canon were divinely pre-ordained to be
so, yet you cannot minimize the role of the early Fathers in shaping
what we regard as scripture today. I would caution against the rather
naive Protestant-influenced attitude of regarding scripture as the
literal word of God, interpreting verses of scripture narrowly taking
them out of the social, cultural, linguistic and historical context
in which they were authored, ignoring Patristic traditions and
reaching conclusions that were far from the intent of the authors.
3. As St. Paul says in his epistle to the Hebrews (1:1-2), "In the
past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times
and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by
his Son,..." Throughout the salvation history of mankind, God has
spoken to man. He continues to speak to us to this day; unfortunately
many of us do not strive to listen. While we pride in our
intellectual faculties and knowledge, most of us are too engrossed in
the ways of the world to hear and imbibe the Word of God with wisdom.
It is thus very meaningful that we pray in the divine liturgy to
raise Fathers of the Church who teach and interpret the word of truth
correctly. Our attitude should be one of humility and submission to
the Word of God and to the authority of the Church and its Fathers so
that we can truly hear Him as He speaks to us.
Thomas Joseph, Ph.D.
Web Master, SOR (http://sor.cua.edu)
Technical Editor, Hugoye (http://syrcom.cua.edu/Hugoye)
--- In SOCM-FORUM@y..., "Rajesh Philipos" wrote:
> Dear all,
> Thank you for replying to my message. I am heartened to see that we
> for each other, especially our spiritual needs and so you took time
> answer my question.
> It might be true that infant baptism started from the 3rd century.
> I am not of the opinion that everything that the early church
> were right......
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I would like to know to which Church you belongs to, Methran�kakshi (Orthodox faction based at Kottayam ) or The�Malankara Jacobite Syrian Orthodox Church ?
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From: aathura.thomas@... [mailto:aathura.thomas@...]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 02:50 PM
Subject: [SOCM-FORUM] (unknown)
What does SOCM-FORUM Stand for...Am confused a bit..
Is it anyway dedicated to The Orthodox Jacobite Church (Patrugheese) or The Orthodox Syrian Church..or its a Combn of members from both section of the church..
Well i belong to the ORTHODOX SYRIAN CHURCH..headed by Bawa thirumeni (His Holiness Moron Mar baselios Marthoma Mathews II)..And not the Patrughese or Jacobite Section of OSC. That should give u the answer
Well does that make a difference..I am a christian..follower of God (The Holy Trinity). Is there any restrictions that the members of SOCM-FORUM should be Jacobite OSC?? Aren't we all children of God..
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