- ... for the IOC members to be accepted into the Universal Syriac Orthodox Church, do you expect us to be re-consecrated with Holy Myron? If this is the case,Message 1 of 3350 , Jul 2, 2005View Source--- In SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, Rev. Dn. Gregory Varghese wrote:
> I have one question, and I ask this with all due respect. In orderfor the IOC members to be accepted into the Universal Syriac Orthodox
Church, do you expect us to be re-consecrated with Holy Myron? If
this is the case, why don't you just make it impossible for us to
come back to the church (Or is requiring us to be re-consecrated just
another way of saying this?)?
Dear moderator & Respected Deacon Gregory,
There are two types of opponents to the church:
a. Heretic - Those who propound and hold onto a faith (Heresy) that is different from that of the church.
b. Schismatic - Those who cannot accept the authority of the ecclesiastical hierarchy of the church. They may have the same faith as that of the church, but their unwillingness to obey authority, makes them opponents or enemies of the church.
The SOC does not consider your church as a heretical church. It is however a schismatic church, since it refuses to accept the spiritual and/or ecclesiastical authority of the Church, the Patriarch of Antioch.
The procedure for acceptance into the church for a heretic is different from that of a schismatic. If a schismatic desires to return to the SOC, all he needs to do is to pledge his allegiance to the ecclesiastical authority of the SOC. Re-baptism or re-chrismation is not required.
However if a heretic (say a CSI or Petecostal) desires to return chrismation is required.
This is just what I know. I could very well be wrong.
Mathew G M
Member ID # 0929
- Dear Sir, Thanks for the reply and I appreciate that. Nevertheless, I would like to point out few things for your information and kind consideration. (1) Yes,Message 3350 of 3350 , Mar 8 9:35 PMView SourceDear Sir,Thanks for the reply and I appreciate that. Nevertheless, I would like to point out few things for your information and kind consideration.(1) Yes, It is noticed that the calendar is made by Samajam, but let me reiterate its a Church Calendar. I had pointed out this to Mr. Daniel, who made this a year back, but unfortunately I got the reply that this is to be used for Saudi Arabia. I don't think any one in Saudi Arabia use Church Calendar in their offices. Further, if its for Saudi Arabia, that shpuld be with Samajam members and wellwishers, it should not appear in jacobite online's website. Am I making sense?(2) Even our local church calendar in Kerala often makes this mistakes, as they put these dates in Calendars, I believe. How can we justify that, if so.(3) Communal harmony is well and good, but that should not get in to a level which dilutes the basic faith (when I say faith means, its Christian Faith, not church/ community) we adhere to.As a person, I'm so weak and cannot take it to higher hierarchy, but you can.Once again thanks for your reply and I hope my points are clear to you now.RegardsShibu MATHEWID number is 4595
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Shibu Mathew <shibmat@...> wrote:Hello,
It has been noticed for the past couple of years hat the Church Calendar highlights the 'Hijra' dates along with the Gregorian date. Basically there is nothing harmful in first shot, but there is a damage behind that.Hijra year is basically the year Muslims calculate as the year when they received Quran to them. My question, Are we Christians accept and acknowledge the same?St. Pauls says to Galatians 1: 9 "As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."Keeping this in mind; how do we highlight Hijri year? Let normal calendar carry it for business reasons, but Church Calendar shall not...Please express yourself with comments....Rgds
Shibu MATHEWID number is 4595---------------------From the desk of moderatorsThis calender was prepared and distributed by our congregation (SAMJAM) in Saudi Arabia. For their own reasons they included the "Hijra" dates.