Re: IOC don't even know who Valiya thirumeni is
- Dear Mr. Thomas,
You are right about catechism book Vattasheril Thirumeni
wrote, 'Madopadesa Saarangal'. In this book he writes: "The priestly
(spiritual) supremacy of the Church resides with Moran Mor Ignatious
Patriarchese who sits on the Throne of Antioch".
You also have to keep in mind, the Vattesseril Thirmeni lived about
30 more years after he wrote 'Madopadesa Saarangal'. It was
republished again during the time of Geevarghese II Bava (the only
Catholicose who could close his eyes seeing peace in Malankara).
Vattesseril Thirumeni nor Geevarghese II Bava didnt change anything
in this book.
In 2003, almost 100 years after he wrote it, the current IOC
leadership edited this book and removed the above sentence and
Now a days the following is what IOC teaches: "the spiritual powers
of the Patriarch of Antioch in Malankara, has diminished to a
So the current day IOC is not following the catechism of the church
as written by Vattasheril Thirumeni.
Mathew G. M
St. John's Church, Ayyampally
--- In SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, Thomas P wrote:
> Dear Koshy,
> The dates of ordination of how many bishops you know accurately? I
do not remember the date of ordination of any bishop of the Orthodox
faction, but it is our belief that they were ordained. If I made an
incorrect statement, please pardon. I participated in the elevation
of only one bishop, late Mar Benyamin Osthathios at Manjinikkara
> -Thomas P
> St. Mary Orthodox/ St. George Orthodox churches, Thumpamon