Re: [SOCM-FORUM] Pampady Thirumeni
- Dear Reji,What to do? I am in between the deep see and the devil. I am deeply upset by reading the distorted history of the Church. Not one word about our relationship with Antioch! Would Pampadi thirumeni appreciate this trend?I doubt how far we would be able to accommodate with this unbridled craze for independence.On the other side, how can and how far we would adjust with the reckless and unjust way of administration?Should I quit or not is the question now before me, can you help? , Love, Johnachan.----- Original Message -----From: Thomas DanielSent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:56 AMTo: SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.comSubject: [SOCM-FORUM] Pampady ThirumeniDear membersKindly visit the website (http://www.pampadythirumeni.com)of H. G. Kuriakose Mor Gregorious familiarly known as“PampadyThirumeni”Metropolitan of the Kottayam Diocese of Malankara“A MAN OF PRAYER & SERVICE”Hope his prayers and the intersection will bring peace or at least an amicable solution for the crises of Malankara.In my personal view his Church must consider him for the sainthood.
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- Dear Johnachan
"History" always distorted by the so-called historians. Everyone
makes history books according to their need and their wish. We can't
do anything for that. If anyone wants to know about the true history,
they must read all sort of distorted history book and select what
they think good for their stance. And do not expect true history from
Now regarding Pampadi Thirumeni appreciate this trend, no sure by all
means NO, he will not appreciate it. But what his soul can do, he and
many other saintly fathers of Malankara Church become the toys of
some so-called faith guardians.
The tears of these Saintly fathers, should not poured on us or on our
coming generation, then we and they are lucky.
Hope they will not cures us.
Now regarding the Independence craze, it is not going to reach an end. Now Catholicose groups want Independent Indian Church. You already know that the Independence cry started in USA. Many of USA members of so called Independent Church started to ask, Why we have to be controlled by Devalokam? If some one from North India started asking same, then the present Catholicose Group leaders cant deny it. If this trend is going to keep alive, very soon in Malankara, you will see many Independent Church. Its going to be a chain reaction. It is not their mistake; it is their faith (at least for time being). In the courtrooms and forums they may claim they are OO, but mostly their leadership and theologians are favoring Bethsyine Orthodox (EO) traditions. Its reflected even in their official Church Web Pages
--- In SOCM-FORUM@y..., "Fr. John Kunjukunju" <fatherjohnkk@h...>
> Dear Reji,upset by reading the distorted history of the Church. Not one word
> What to do? I am in between the deep see and the devil. I am deeply
about our relationship with Antioch! Would Pampadi thirumeni
appreciate this trend?
> Now regarding the Independence craze, it is not going to reach anend. Now Catholicose groups want Independent Indian Church. You
already know that the Independence cry started in USA. Many of USA
members of so called Independent Church started to ask, "Why we have
to be controlled by Devalokam?" If some one from North India started
asking same, then the present Catholicose Group leaders can't deny it.
> Thomas DanielMalankara churches throughout the world are under the Malankara
Holy Synod and there is no independence movement. They are all
going to participate in the upcoming Malankara Associaton.
What is the status of Knanaya church, Malankara archdiocese of
America and Canada etc.? In my understanding they are now seperated
(Independent) of Malankara. This is also one form of independence.
This kind of independence (removing Malankara dependency) will not
help the younger generation much. We need to teach young people that
we are Indians with a distict civilization. It is because of this
civilization that we follow the same life style in family life like
people of other religions in India. Thus the value system is based
on Indian civilization. For this reason alone, Malankara Orthodox
parents in America want to teach Indian traditions to young people.
All most all parishes are planning to participate in the upcoming
association. Is Bava forcing parishes to particpate. No, it is the
parish general body deciding whether to participate of not. Let us
work for unity in our church and maintain our distinct identity as
ancient christians of India.