Re: Kozhencherry origin of IOC elect, V.S. & some more facts
- Dear Sajay,
After I read your reply addressed to me, I understood the meaning of the saying 'The cat is out of the sac'.
I don't remember mentioning anywhere about Mr. Sajay Thannikottu arguing with people in a family get together. I was mentioning an incident that actually happened when I was in Kerala last June. Now even if it was you I wouldn't have known because I have never met you in my life. Now you say that you were also present in that meeting and none of the incidents that I wrote about took place.If it was you then you cannot refuse the fact that whatever points I summarised in my previous message were actually argued upon. Come on Sajay, there were others also present witnessing this event. The points I have mentioned previously are the arguments of any average IOCian. So don't worry that if you accept having argued in those lines your facade of being a person seeking unity and peace will fall off. We understand your types very well.
Regarding my identity , the honourable moderators of this forum have
issued me an ID no because I have disclosed my identity to them and
they are convinced of my identity. I have been a member of this Forum
since the beginning. So please don't be under the impression that I am hiding under some false identities like some of your likes tend to do.
Sajay, the problem here is not Vishwasasamrakshakan or Almayavedi, but the problem is your attitude. For you anything and everything SOC comes in black. Its not your fault as you have been fed these things and you and your likes don't want to open your eyes and ears to simple facts. My problem with your message was not because you pointed out an article written in VS, but because you sarcastically invoked the name of St. Valiya Thirumeni. My problem was with your attitude. You could have wrote your views on the article of VS without sarcastically taking the name of such a holy father.
And this is the primary problem in the church conflict. This attitude
of your church leaders and least respect to our sentiments and
concerns. First ask them to change this attitude and then we can talk
Let us not discuss on your neutrality as you claim. Recently you sent a mail to the other Forum mentioning the two eventualities in case HH the Patriarch is invited by your church. If you are really neutral as you claim to be, ask your mannuthy metran to shut up before you can even think of having a dialogue with HH. You people applaud after seeing his verbal gymnastics in front of TV cameras and journalists and later brood that HH did not show interest in having a dialogue with your church when he was in malankara.
Sajay, understand that peace is possible in this church in the present scenario... but not unity.
ID no 1309
- Dear Dr George Kunju John,
In your message you say: "Like wise can SOC invite HH Moran Didimos
Bava to Manarcad church."
My answer is that the SOC has invited the Indian Orthodox Church
dignitaries to the most important church that the SOC has, St. Mark's
Syrian Orthodox Church in Jerusalem. The SOC even permitted the IOC
Bishops to celeberate the divine liturgy in this church, during the
visit of Didimos Bava to Jerusalem. You can see the photos at:
During the visit, Didimos Bava and team also went over to Egypt and
visited with H.H the Pope of Alexandria of the Coptic Church. I always
wondered why this team never bothered to visit Damascus and pay visit
to H.H the Patriarch of Antioch.
So the SOC has already invited the IOC Bishops to celeberate the divine
liturgy at one of the most important SOC churches. The question is will
the IOC invite the Patriarch ? I hope and pray they do, and that it may
lead to the ultimate healing of divisions.
Mathew G M