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  • Eldo E V
    Dear moderator, In 1 Samuel 28 Saul, used the help of a mediator woman to talk to the spirit of Samuel, but he himself banned mediators in Israel. Here some
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 7, 2008
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      Dear moderator,

      In 1 Samuel 28 Saul, used the help of a mediator woman to talk to the spirit of Samuel, but he himself banned mediators in Israel. Here some points to be cleared. This shows these peoples are capable for calling the souls of dead people. But as we believe the souls will rest in peace with the holy fathers how it can happen? Have these people have more power than the Lord as she is able to call the prophets spirit or the mediators are working with the power of God?

      Eldo E V
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    • Apu Jose
      Dear readers, The said woman in the this passage is a medium (one who supposedly acts as a bridge between the living and the dead ie evil spirits). The right
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 15, 2008
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        Dear readers,

        The said woman in the this passage is a medium (one who supposedly acts as a bridge between the living and the "dead"ie evil spirits). The right word is medium not mediator.

        Christianity and for that matter the Old testment Judaism bans contact with the dead in any form , other than with the saints ( who are actually not dead but living in Christ )through prayers of intercession, relics, canonical prayers , feasts of saints etc.

        Deuteronomy 18
        10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
        11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

        Ephesians 6
        10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
        11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
        12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places

        2 Corinthians 11
        14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

        These are some of the things that are banned for a Christian

        1.contact with oracles("Velichapad") or mediums, automatic
        2.writing(writing books with the help of spirits ),
        3.ouijja board or planchette (a board containing alphabets and nos used to contact the dead (evil spirits)),
        3.ancestor worship,
        4.Kadamtthu kathanar seva,Chattan seva,
        5.prediction using spirits like holding seances(spiritism or aroopi seva), 6.Prashnam veppical(astrology),kaniyan,
        7.Palmistry,mashinottam,mukhalakshanam, lakshanam parayal,
        8.prediction using birds,necromancy (prediction using the dead),
        9.magic(mantravatham, Koodothram),any kinds of magical charms (manthracharadu, thakidu,ayalassu, pulinakham,anaval mothiram , raksha bandhan etc),
        10.Satanic music(heavy metal inwhich many of the lyrics are from Satanic bible),clothes and accessories (many of the pendents and lockets inthe market have anti Christian symbols on them) which glorify Satan
        11.belief in bad or good omens(shakunam read Isiah 44:25-26),belief in birthstones, sunsigns, horoscopes(jatakam, read Barazhirah 34:5 of Vishudha Grantham), computer jatakam,
        12.aabhicharam or the fear of abhicharam(read Num23:23 and Luke10:19),
        13.Nakshtra phalam,numerology(lucky and unlucky nos).
        14.any kinds of superstitios like crossing of cat,cry of lizard,3 people should not go out together, do not call from the backseeing the broom, etc
        15 Ashri sthanam kanal(I have doubts about this)

        I have tried to make the list as exhaustive as possible . There may be still some things missing.
        With prayers
        Apu jose
        Ernakulam
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