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, "Armata, Joseph R. (JArmata)" <JArmata@g...> wrote:
> My guess is it ultimately derives from the pomegranate connection.
> Even though the fruit wasn't native to the area, it was a Renaissance
> decorative motif that became widely popularized all over Slovakia and
> Hungary in the 18th/19th century.
Was this motif also of Turkish origin ?
Incidentally, pomegranate medalions appeared on Turkish battle flags which were made of silk.
In 16th c the Ottoman Empire had expanded into Hungary including territory in what is now
By 17th c the Habsburgs had pushed the Ottomans back and established Austrian rule over
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dan wanchic [mailto:wa8vzq@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:13 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Surname opinions wanted
> I've been researching my maternal line surname Granatovic from
> My gggrandfather was Andras Granatovic.
> My ggrandfather Josef and his two brothers changed the spelling
> to Granatovich in the US. My guess is because of pronouncing
> the ending 'c' as 'ch.
> My grandfathers' generation changed the spelling to Grantonic.
> I have several different theories on the meaning of Granatovic
> and I'd like to rule out some of my guesses. I'd like some opinions
> from the group. These are listed in my guess from highest to lowest
> 1. It's a trade name related to someone who imported or sold
> since granatovnik is Slovak/Czech for pomegranate. Dropping the 'nik'
> adding the 'ic' seems to be a plausible progression into a surname.
> 2. It's a trade name related to someone who traded or sold garnets
> granat is German for garnet. Adding the suffix 'ovic' results in
> Although the German population in Czech/Slovakia region is small, it
> a significant possibility.
> 3. Similar scenerio as #2 but using an ethinic Russian origin since
> pomegrante in Russian. But this case adding the 'ovic' the name would
> 'son of pomegranate' I've found the Granatovich surname in Russia.
> 4. Similar scenerio as #3 but Belarus or Ukranian origin. (I don't
> know the translation for these languages) I do see the Granat and
> surname in searches in each country.
> 5. It's a patronymic name corrupted by a double translation error when
> th given name Hranich to cryllic and back. Grana is the Russian
> of Hranich.
> 6. It's a descriptive name loosely related to the reddish color of
> or pomegranates.
> Any insight is greatly appreciated.
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