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Re: [S-R] Brestovany - KONDRC

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  • Vladimir Bohinc
    Dear Dave, I am afraid, you can not do the Brestovany research in US. I can do it for you here if you want. Best, Vladimir ... From: Dave Deckrt
    Message 1 of 3 , Sep 7, 2003
      Dear Dave,
      I am afraid, you can not do the Brestovany research in US. I can do it for
      you here if you want.
      Best,
      Vladimir

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Dave Deckrt" <maze_r@...>
      To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:27 AM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany - KONDRC


      > Where would i be searching in the archives? I was in the Family History
      Center in San diego for a feww hours but got totally lost on searching for
      Kondrc. Well at least it wasnt all bad got some new info on the other side
      of the family as well. :).
      >
      > Dave
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Vladimir Bohinc
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:29 PM
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      >
      >
      > Dear searchers,
      > The case is so simple. Brestovany are right here. The name is all right.
      > A day i the arhive and you've got the family tree.
      > This is what I did yesterday for a village not far away from there.
      > Over 60 persons found, from before 1700 to 1920.
      > So simple it can be. ( If you have some luck too:-)
      > Best,
      > Vladimir
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Bill Tarkulich" <bill@...>
      > To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:24 PM
      > Subject: RE: [S-R] Brestovany
      >
      >
      > > I looked at the scan. Brestovany is clear. The first word looks like
      > > they may have been attempting to write Horny (which means Upper)
      > > However, there is no Horny Brestovany , though the village immediately
      > > to the south is Horny Lovcice. Bestovany is in the old Poszony
      county,
      > > Nagyszombaty district. To the N. of Brestovany is larger town named
      > > HLOHOVEC (Magyar spelling is GALGOCZ.) Maybe he was trying to write
      > > HLOHOVEC. In any event, I wouln't sweat it, I think you've got
      > > BRESTOVANY nailed.
      > >
      > >
      > > Niytra County circa 1910 -
      > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/nyitra.jpg
      > > Pozsony County circa 1910 -
      > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/pozsony.jpg
      > > Caution, each map is about 1MB in size. Dowload once, save to your
      > > local disk for reference.
      > > These counties no longer exist, as they were in the old Hungary till
      > > 1918. However, many of our ancestors continued to use old place
      names.
      > > Place names are now in Slovak.
      > >
      > > To find BRESTOVANY on Niytra Map, find large letters NYITRA VARMEGYE
      in
      > > the white space on the left side of map. Right above it is village
      > > named N.-SZOMBAT (Nagy Szombat, presently TRNAVA.) To the immediate R
      of
      > > this word is N.-Bresztovany.
      > >
      > > To find BRESTOVANY on Pozsony map, find NAGYSZOMBAT in the upper R
      > > corner of map. To the immediate R of this name, look for FELSOZIL and
      > > ALSOSZIL. This is upper and lower BRESTOVANY. Yes, the Hungarians
      > > changed it's name a lot.
      > >
      > > Hope this helps,
      > > Bill Tarkulich
      > >
      > > Bill Tarkulich
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Dave Deckrt [mailto:maze_r@...]
      > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:11 AM
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      > >
      > >
      > > The SS-5 form for my great grandfather can be found at
      > > http://www.the-echelon.net/X-Faith/Skondrc.jpg
      > >
      > > Thanks.
      > >
      > > Also does the name Lisciski ring a bell anywhere for anyone? here is
      his
      > > wifes (which i dont know the town either or her last name to be
      exact.)
      > > opps that scan didnt work well just to think is there a toown called
      > > Lejskove? say Czech-Slovakia
      > >
      > > Thanks Dave
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Vladimir Bohinc
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:25 AM
      > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      > >
      > >
      > > OK Dave,
      > > when you are ready, send me a scan.
      > > Kondrc is a valid surname from the area. For the rest you will have
      to
      > > be a
      > > little more specific as to what you are looking for.
      > > Regards,
      > > Vladimir
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Dave Deckrt" <maze_r@...>
      > > To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:06 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      > >
      > >
      > > > As i have to wait to see if my roomate will hookup the Scanner.
      > > Going
      > > along wit the same SS-5 form, what would be Michael in Brestovany
      > > (Also
      > > Steve Kondrc (SS-5 Form Holder) was born in 1881 in Brestonvany,
      from
      > > my
      > > deductions of the paper of course. Next i have to figure out her
      > > mothers
      > > maiden name. Cant people write in plain text and not script :). I
      > > also
      > > found a Stephen Kondrk at ellis island but it say and looks from the
      > > manifest that he would be 20-25 (depending on the writing, and also
      > > his name
      > > looks like Kondrc to me, but from all accounts he would be like 15
      > > cause the
      > > boat came across in 1895, I know the mothers first name is Maria
      > > looks
      > > like Koucina for last name (again will need help decifering)
      > > Hopefully we
      > > have a scanner at work.
      > > >
      > > > Dave
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: Vladimir Bohinc
      > > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:44 AM
      > > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Dear Dave,
      > > > There is only one place called Brestovany in Slovakia. If you
      have
      > > any
      > > > names, a quick check could be made in the archive. Maybe I even
      > > have
      > > some of
      > > > your folks in my large data base. This area is my favorite.
      > > > Best regards,
      > > > Vladimir Bohinc
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: "Dave Deckrt" <maze_r@...>
      > > > To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:02 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Brestovany
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > > Sounds good ill try and scan them sometime today. That would
      be
      > > good
      > > so i
      > > > can get a better idea. And yes for place of birth its two
      words.
      > > lll
      > > goto
      > > > those sites provided.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thx
      > > > >
      > > > > Dave
      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > > From: Bill Tarkulich
      > > > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:38 AM
      > > > > Subject: [S-R] Brestovany
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > It would be better if you can post a copy of the image for
      us
      > > to
      > > look
      > > > > at. Handwriting can be tricky and it can take several eyes
      to
      > > get
      > > it
      > > > > right. Post the entire document so we can compare
      handwriting
      > > styles.
      > > > >
      > > > > Brestovany is a small village, so there is not really a
      place
      > > "within"
      > > > > Brestovany. The closest contemporary village with an "H"
      > > is
      > > Horne
      > > > > Lovcice. See http://mapy.atlas.sk/
      > > > >
      > > > > I'm a bit confused by your statement of "but the first place
      > > is like
      > > > > Huibe" . What do you mean? Two words in a row, in the
      same
      > > place
      > > of
      > > > > birth box on the form? We have to be careful also that a
      > > county is
      > > not
      > > > > being referred to. You may have more info than you need.
      > > > >
      > > > > What was the year of birth? We have to ascertain wether
      > > Slovak or
      > > > > Magyar names were in use. Read more about it here
      > > > > http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/kingdom_of_hungary.htm
      > > > >
      > > > > I strongly recommend you continue your research with
      > > > > http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
      > > > >
      > > > > ______________
      > > > > Bill Tarkulich
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: Dave Deckrt [mailto:maze_r@...]
      > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:55 PM
      > > > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Subject: Re: Re:Re: [S-R] Brotherhood of Silence
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Just got a SS-5 back from my great grandfather, and im
      trying
      > > to
      > > figure
      > > > > out where it he was born. I can read Brestovany, but the
      first
      > > place
      > > is
      > > > > like Huibe? Does that sound familiar? Or can anyone name
      > > places
      > > > > starting with an H in Brestovany?
      > > > >
      > > > > Thx
      > > > >
      > > > > Dave
      > > > >
      > > > >
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