Re: [S-R] Brezlow?
- Dear Frank,
I am sorry, but this is not true;
Brezolupy Jewish records were kept in Banovce rabinate, never in RC
Births 1841-1928, 1937
I have never seen a Jewish record from 1700, and I have seen many. They all
start with around 1850, when the Jews were told to do so.
Sidi comes from Sidonia.
As to where this Hirsch family will be found; it is useless to speculate
about all possible and impossible locations. They were everywhere and were
migrating so much, that you can hardly trace them back the same way as the
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <frankur@...>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Brezlow?
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Nick Holcz <nickh@i...> wrote:
> > At 07:22 PM 31/08/2003 +0200, you wrote:
> > >Dear Nick,
> > >I see now, you mean the only Sidi, who actually came from Vienna.
> > >
> > >Vladimir, thanks again.
> ahoj Nick,
> My theory of the location of Brezlow ? is different.
> In 1923, a Sidi Hirsch, age 28, married, Hebrew, emigrated to
> her husband's (Benjamin Hirsch) address : 416 E. 3rd Street NYC.
> Her Last Residence was Wien (Vienna), Austria.
> In Yiddish Sarah is Sore , so perhaps Sidi was named Sadie ?
> Her birthplace was Brezlow ?, Czechoslovakia .
> There was no country called Czechoslovakia until the WW I Hungarian
> peace treaty in 1920.
> In Upper Hungary (Slovakia) R.C. parish churches kept the Jewish
> In 1922, a Benjamin Hirsch, age 35, married, Polish, emigrated
> to his brother's (Nathan Hirsch) address: 416 E. 3rd Street NYC.
> His birthplace was Solatwin ?, Poland and Last Residence was also
> Vienna, Austria.
> Perhaps Slotwin located 30 miles distant from Warszawa (Warsaw)
> Poland ?
> Holcz is a Hungarian spelling.
> Sidi was born abt. 1895.
> If her maiden name was Holcz or Holz would expect your father would
> have known if she had converted to the Jewish faith.
> Very strange.
> There are two Vel'ké Pole located in Slovakia, one in western
> Slovakia and the other in eastern Slovakia.
> Also a number of Nové Mesto in Slovakia.
> Assume it was Vel'ké Pole (Sk) Pálosnagymezo" (H) located 72 miles
> of Bratislava and Nové Mesto nad Vahom (Sk)
> Vagyújhely (H) - a distance of 36 miles between these 2 places.
> The Slovakia telephone directory lists a Holcová , i.e. surname Holc +
> -ová (feminine gender) under Nové Mesto nad Vahom.
> A Brezolupy is located 66 miles ENE of Bratislava and just south
> of Bánovce nad Bebravou, Slovakia.
> This is about 20 miles distant from Nové Mesto nad Vahom.
> The Jewish records for Brezolupy are listed under the R.C. church
> (1700-1895) for Bánovce nad Bebravou, Slovakia.
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- At 02:54 PM 1/09/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>ahoj Nick,She didn't convert to Judaism the family was Jewish , My father was born in
>My theory of the location of Brezlow ? is different.
>In 1923, a Sidi Hirsch, age 28, married, Hebrew, emigrated to
>her husband's (Benjamin Hirsch) address : 416 E. 3rd Street NYC.
>Her Last Residence was Wien (Vienna), Austria.
>In Yiddish Sarah is Sore , so perhaps Sidi was named Sadie ?
>Her birthplace was Brezlow ?, Czechoslovakia .
>There was no country called Czechoslovakia until the WW I Hungarian
>peace treaty in 1920.
>In Upper Hungary (Slovakia) R.C. parish churches kept the Jewish
Nove Mesto nad Vahom . I have a birth place of Velke Polo for my uncle and
on his immigration papers ( to Australia) it says The village of Pole and
then Uherce , Topolcany . Does that help?
As you say there was no Czechoslovakia when any of my father's family was
born, but papers produced after 1920 say Czechoslovakia , my father told
me they were Slovak, there are relatives of my aunty's living in Nove Mesto
NV. I have got some limited information from them but like Oliver Twist I
I'll see if the FHC has films for Bánovce nad Bebravou.
Thanks for your help.
- In a message dated 9/2/03 12:45:18 AM, nickh@... writes:
<< >ahoj Nick, >>
Just wondering, is "ahoj" pronounced "ahoy"? That is the greeting Alexander
Graham Bell said the first time he picked up the first phone, and is also the
greeting Montgomery Burns on the Simpson's show uses when he picks up the
phone. Does it mean "hello?"