Re: RAAB form the village Hniezdne
- --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Tina Woods <tinanwoods@y...>
> Hello all!the surname
> My name is Tina, and I am new to this listserve. I am researching
> RAAB form the village Hniezdne, Slovakia.ahoj Tina
Hniezdne is located 179 miles ENE of Bratislava near okres StarÃ¡
Before the term z^upa (county) was discontinued in Slovakia in
1923, Hniezdne was located in Spis^skÃ¡ (grammatical gender form
of Spis^) county.
Germans, Slovaks, Rusyns, Croatians, Hungarians, and Poles.
Don't know which group settled here first in 12th, 14th, and 16th
Raab was a German surname.
There are 2,600+ surnames Raab listed in gedcom files.
The Slovakia telephone directory lists a Emil and Karol Raab under
Hniezdne and a Raab under StarÃ¡ L'ubovn^a.
The LDS-Mormons filmed the R.C. parish church records (1624-1904) for
Gn^azdÃ¡ (also spelled Hniezdne), Slovensko, Czechoslovakia, formerly
known as GnÃ©zda, Szepes megye (county), Hungary.
Text in Latin, Hungarian and Slovak.
- Hello Tina and welcome to the list. You're off to a fine start, and
lucky you have the film resources available. You'll make good progress.
Regarding "188 Spisska Zupa, CZ. SL" This is an incomplete address, the
village name is omitted. "Zupa" means "region" or district, or perhaps
county, depending on the source's intent. "Spisska Zupa" is literally
"Spis region". I suspect the "188" is a house number. It's quite
possible that he is from is also GNEZDA, given all the corroborating
evidence you've gathered thus far.
I can't tell you a much about the Tatra area as it's beyond my sphere of
research (Northeast/Zemplin county). However, I do have some general
reference material and am happy to extract what I have for you:
In the 1910 Magyar census, the village of GNEZDA, located in Szepes
county, Olubloi district, had 1080 residents comprised as follows:
39 Magyar (Hungarian)
936 Roman Catholic
89 Greek Catholic
It doesn't appear that the FHL has the 1869 census records for that
village available yet, which would have made for another good source.
For background info, you may want to consider researching neighboring
towns. If you have not already done so, go to the map server
http://mapy.atlas.sk and enter IHniezdne. Many times a collective
history of several regional villages is available (most often not on the
web and most often in a native language.) You'll probably get your
films before you dig out the historical info. You'll probably focus on
Stara Lubovna for historical information. As is often the case, larger
villages have greater influence on the minors.
A quick search of www.google.com (in case you haven't) reveals:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/message/5601 ( a message from
someone else researching your village)
and if you really have time on your hands:
Good Luck to you. Let us know what you find.
From: Tina Woods [mailto:tinanwoods@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: [S-R] RAAB form the village Hniezdne
My name is Tina, and I am new to this listserve. I am researching the
surname RAAB form the village Hniezdne, Slovakia.
According to ship manifests, my grandmother Stefania (Stephanie) RAAB
came to the USA (ultimately to Philadelphia PA) through Ellis Island
in 1904, as did her siblings Maria (1900), Ferdinand (1905), Ludmilla
(1921) and Josef (1922). All list the village Gnesda (Guezda, Gniazda,
Gnezda etc.) in Hungary or Czechoslovakia (after 1920) as their place
of origin/birth. According to information I have read in this list-
serve and the TARG website, this is a Tatra area village now known as
Hniezdne which is currently in Slovakia.
On the ship manifests they identify Josef Raab as thier father and the
1921 &1922 manifests list 188 Spisska Zupa, CZ. SL. as his
address. Family legend has it that their mother's name was Victoria
I have researched my grandmother and her siblings in the USA through
cencus documents, but I am hoping to begin research of them in Europe.
I am awaiting the 3 microfilm records from the LDS family history center
I have seen identified here and at the TARG website which apparently
have parrish records for this village.
I would appreciate any other advice on research in this village, or any
leads on this surname/family group in this region of Europe.
Incidentally, I cannot
find Ludmilla in any cencus, birth, death or marraige records
(ancestry.com and genealogy.com) in the US after her passage through
Ellis Island, so any news of her in America would be welcome.
Also, any reccomendations on reading for background information on this
village/municipality/region, particulary leading up to and including
the time of their immigration would be appreciated.
I have appreciated your posts to date, and look forward to contributing.
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