Re: surname spelling changes
- --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Anne Sprentz" <asprentz@w...>
> Frank,curious to
> You seem knowledgeable on the Slovak and Hungarian language. I'm
> know if you can answer this.Mihaly in
> My great-grandfather was born 1879 in Satoraljaujhely, Hungary.
> On the Ellis Island ship manifest, he lists his name as Sprencz,
> On the city directories, he was listed as Mike Printz /Princz
> His sons birth record lists him as Sprentz (1907)written
> On his sons baptism record his name was spelled Sprencz. (1907)
> On the 1910 census, his name was spelled Printz
> Some records his name was spelled Prince and Sprencz, in his own
> handwriting. ( his dec of intent, and on a church document, both
> between 1909-1912)understand is
> I can see the different spellings of Princz, but what I don't
> how Sprencz was interchanged with Princz? Why would that happen?he
> His son kept the name Sprentz, the father kept it Printz.
> Also, if there is no cz in the Slovak Language, would that mean that
> could not have been Slovak? The area he was born in was onceSlovakia, as I
> understand and had a high concentration of Slovaks.Anne,
> A. Sprentz
After the WW I peace treaty with Hungary (1920), Zemplén megye was
(county) was split between Hungary and Czechoslovakia around
Part remained in Hungary and the rest became part of Slovakia
Many emigrants changed names after they had settled in the U.S.
Emigration service didn't make them change their surnames.
Some did it to sound more American and others for any number of
By no Slovak letter 'cz' I meant that in ship manifests before WW I,
Slovak surnames often appeared under their Hungarian spellings.
Archaic letter combination 'cz' is now the letter 'c'.
Hungarian doesn't have a diacritic letter c ^ pron. ch.
It does have the letter 'cs' which is also pron. ch.
So Slovak surnames on manifests could be in Hungarian version
while today the Slovak version is found in the Slovakia telephone
In Hungarian and Slovak, the letter c is pron. ts.
In German the letter z is pron. ts.
Sprentz and Printz look like German surname spellings.
Michael, Mike (E) (G)
Mihály, Miska (H)
In 1905, a Mihaly Sprencz, age 34, married, Magyar, emigrated to
He went to his brother György (H) George (E) Juraj (Sk) Sprencz
in Newark, NJ.
His Last Residence is listed as Regmez, but that was Regéc which is
located just west of Sátoraljaúhely, Hungary.
In 1909, a Mihaly Sprencz , age 36, married, Magyar, emigrated
He went to brother-in-law János Louscsak in Cleveland OH.
Mihaly had been in U.S. before in 1903/1906 also in Cleveland.
His Last Residence was listed as Cselij which is Cselej (H)
C^elovce (Sk) located just west of Trebis^ov, Slovakia and
not far north of Sátoraljaúhely, Hungary.
> Do you know who killed my father?letter
> JOHN SPRENTZ, murdered 1983 in
> Ecorse, Michigan.... see my website for
> further details.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <frankur@a...>
> To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:40 PM
> Subject: [S-R] Re: Maczko, Orendas/Arendacs
> > Slovak language doesn't have a letter 'cz'.
> > Cz was an archaic Hungarian letter combination, now the letter c.
> > In Slovak and Hungarian the letter c is pron. as English 'ts'.
> > In Hungarian, letter 'cs' is pron. ch.
> > Slavic diacritic letter 'c^' is pron. ch.
> > Archaic Hungarian letters 'ch, ts' are now modern letter cs and
> > 'th' is modern letter t.email to
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