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  • glucotch
    Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863 I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s.
    Message 1 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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      Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

      I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891


    • William C. Wormuth
      At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark v over the c. On Tuesday, June
      Message 2 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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        At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


        On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


         
        Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

        I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891



      • MGMojher
        Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that
        Message 3 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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          Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that destroyed a lot of Castle Garden records. I, too, could not find my paternal grandfather, great-aunts and uncle’s entry for years. Then I learned about the fire. That can be why you have not found your great-grandfather’s entry.
           
          Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:14 PM
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          At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


          On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


           
          Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

          I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891



        • davidsadventure4
          Hello: I am coming into this discussion a bit late so I may not know all of the background, but I wanted to share my experience with the Ellis Island records.
          Message 4 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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            Hello:
             
            I am coming into this discussion a bit late so I may not know all of the background, but I wanted to share my experience with the Ellis Island records.  It took me a very long time (well over a year) to find my grandfather's Ellis Island record because it was under a variant in spelling that I had not thought of in my research queries.  Steve Morse's ONE STEP WEBSITES can be very valuable.  While his ONE STEP Ellis Island GOLD FORM and WHITE FORM searches only go back to 1892 (and thus would not detail your great-grandfather's entry prior to and/or in 1891), there are a few other ONE-STEP WEBSITES for the NY SHIP LISTS (including CASTLE GARDEN) that include entries from the years 1820 through 1957.
             
             
            When researching the databases, do not get stuck on any particular spelling.  When I did a search for using only the first three letters of the first name (AND) and the first three letters of the last name (LUK) and limited the birth year between 1862 and 1864, there were 21 entries that I found:
             
             
            With regard to the village name, please make sure you understand all of the alternative names of the village -- the Slovak name, Hungarian name, Latin name, German name, etc. of the village, as it may come in a different form than the name used today.  With regard to the name ANDRAS, also try alternative spellings that sound the same (such as ONDRAS, etc.)
             
            With regard to HANUSOVCE, it is SPISSKE HANUSOVCE or HANUSOVCE NAD TOPLOU or another HANUSOVCE?  
             
            I hope that this may help a little.
             
            Best regards,
             
            David
             
             
             
            In a message dated 6/24/2014 9:40:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com writes:
             

            Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that destroyed a lot of Castle Garden records. I, too, could not find my paternal grandfather, great-aunts and uncle’s entry for years. Then I learned about the fire. That can be why you have not found your great-grandfather’s entry.
             
            Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:14 PM
            Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
             
             

            At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


            On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


             
            Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

            I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891



          • MGMojher
            David, Thanks for the valuable lesson. If you use the Ellis Island website instead of Steve Morse’s ONE STEP you are presented with a long list of
            Message 5 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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              David,
                  Thanks for the valuable lesson.
                  If you use the Ellis Island website instead of Steve Morse’s ONE STEP you are presented with a long list of alternative spellings. That where the patience of doing genealogy comes in. One can search each alternative in hopes of making a “hit”. In my case Mojher didn’t work, but Majher did.
                  With Morse the “limited search” of just the first three letter of the surname is akin to the Ellis Island alternative spellings. In that you broaden the the search. You can then start to narrow the search by just using the first letter of the given name and continue through adding more letters of the name. The same goes for the surname. It is a variant on the “bullseye” search, of start narrow and go broader.
                  As for village names I still use http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/. It may be in Slovak, but by placing a village name or a surname in that box in the upper left you can get some valuable information. The village name can lead to a list of all the names the village has been known by and in what years. It will also tell you what Hungarian county it was in. The year range can be strange, in that there can be missing years. Nonetheless, at least you can have a good idea what the village was called during particular years.
                  As for surnames, the data base taps into the Slovak 1995 Census. It will give all the variant spellings of the name based on the use or not of the dialect marks. Then they tell you how many times that surname spelling was found in Slovakia and the number of locations it was found in. Only the “Top 10” locations are usually given, sometimes more if the list isn’t too much longer than 10. For rare surnames in Slovakia the Top 10 list can be great because if the village list is less than 10 you have a “bullseye” of possible locations. As it often happens the listed villages can be very close to one another. So you end up with a very distinctive “hood” for that surname.
               
              Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:06 PM
              Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
               
               

              Hello:
               
              I am coming into this discussion a bit late so I may not know all of the background, but I wanted to share my experience with the Ellis Island records.  It took me a very long time (well over a year) to find my grandfather's Ellis Island record because it was under a variant in spelling that I had not thought of in my research queries.  Steve Morse's ONE STEP WEBSITES can be very valuable.  While his ONE STEP Ellis Island GOLD FORM and WHITE FORM searches only go back to 1892 (and thus would not detail your great-grandfather's entry prior to and/or in 1891), there are a few other ONE-STEP WEBSITES for the NY SHIP LISTS (including CASTLE GARDEN) that include entries from the years 1820 through 1957.
               
               
              When researching the databases, do not get stuck on any particular spelling.  When I did a search for using only the first three letters of the first name (AND) and the first three letters of the last name (LUK) and limited the birth year between 1862 and 1864, there were 21 entries that I found:
               
               
              With regard to the village name, please make sure you understand all of the alternative names of the village -- the Slovak name, Hungarian name, Latin name, German name, etc. of the village, as it may come in a different form than the name used today.  With regard to the name ANDRAS, also try alternative spellings that sound the same (such as ONDRAS, etc.)
               
              With regard to HANUSOVCE, it is SPISSKE HANUSOVCE or HANUSOVCE NAD TOPLOU or another HANUSOVCE? 
               
              I hope that this may help a little.
               
              Best regards,
               
              David
               
               
               
              In a message dated 6/24/2014 9:40:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com writes:
               

              Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that destroyed a lot of Castle Garden records. I, too, could not find my paternal grandfather, great-aunts and uncle’s entry for years. Then I learned about the fire. That can be why you have not found your great-grandfather’s entry.
               
              Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:14 PM
              Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
               
               

              At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


              On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


               
              Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

              I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891



            • htcstech
              Hi everyone! I m going to butt in here. All the coding behind these front ends of any databases do work with wildcards. You still need to be aware of major
              Message 6 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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                Hi everyone!
                I'm going to butt in here. All the coding behind these 'front ends' of any databases do work with wildcards. You still need to be aware of major spelling variations though, especially if the spelling variations begin from the 2nd letter.
                Nothing is better than an example:

                Researching Marafko.

                Searching MARA*  <---- that's an asterix meaning show all names that begin with MARA with any endings
                Typical results: MARAVKO, MARAVKOVA, MARATKO, MARAWKOVICS etc.

                This technique will not find MORAFKO as the 2nd letter is the variable.
                You can use the exclamation point ! to replace a single letter in a search.
                So M!RAF* would bring up MORAFKO.

                All this went swimmingly for me and I thought I got all of them. But it was continual exposure to Slovak via these groups where I saw that many words in general have missing vowels to our English ears.
                Searching MRAF* and MRAV* brought a new set of results (and consequently I made the journey to the Hungarian archives in Budapest).

                Now there is a limit with these wildcards in that some databases require you to use 3 or 4 letters or otherwise will return no results. So MA* or MAR* will not work. Trial and error.

                You can try these wildcards at familysearch, ellis island, MOL online etc,

                The other aspect is that some names are translatable and depend somewhat on scribes' ethnicity, language skills and church and secular rubric. I have always wondered why LDS shows MORAVEK in the results. It was only 2 weeks ago when I finally got a reply from a MORAVKOVA in central Slovakia who informed me that MORAVKOVA is the female gender of MORAVEK as well as MORAVKO. I am still trying to work out if there is another MORAVEK-MORAVKO tie in.

                So try * and !

                Peter M.


                On 25 June 2014 12:42, 'MGMojher' mgmojher@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS] <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                 

                David,
                    Thanks for the valuable lesson.
                    If you use the Ellis Island website instead of Steve Morse’s ONE STEP you are presented with a long list of alternative spellings. That where the patience of doing genealogy comes in. One can search each alternative in hopes of making a “hit”. In my case Mojher didn’t work, but Majher did.
                    With Morse the “limited search” of just the first three letter of the surname is akin to the Ellis Island alternative spellings. In that you broaden the the search. You can then start to narrow the search by just using the first letter of the given name and continue through adding more letters of the name. The same goes for the surname. It is a variant on the “bullseye” search, of start narrow and go broader.
                    As for village names I still use http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/. It may be in Slovak, but by placing a village name or a surname in that box in the upper left you can get some valuable information. The village name can lead to a list of all the names the village has been known by and in what years. It will also tell you what Hungarian county it was in. The year range can be strange, in that there can be missing years. Nonetheless, at least you can have a good idea what the village was called during particular years.
                    As for surnames, the data base taps into the Slovak 1995 Census. It will give all the variant spellings of the name based on the use or not of the dialect marks. Then they tell you how many times that surname spelling was found in Slovakia and the number of locations it was found in. Only the “Top 10” locations are usually given, sometimes more if the list isn’t too much longer than 10. For rare surnames in Slovakia the Top 10 list can be great because if the village list is less than 10 you have a “bullseye” of possible locations. As it often happens the listed villages can be very close to one another. So you end up with a very distinctive “hood” for that surname.
                 
                Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:06 PM
                Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
                 
                 

                Hello:
                 
                I am coming into this discussion a bit late so I may not know all of the background, but I wanted to share my experience with the Ellis Island records.  It took me a very long time (well over a year) to find my grandfather's Ellis Island record because it was under a variant in spelling that I had not thought of in my research queries.  Steve Morse's ONE STEP WEBSITES can be very valuable.  While his ONE STEP Ellis Island GOLD FORM and WHITE FORM searches only go back to 1892 (and thus would not detail your great-grandfather's entry prior to and/or in 1891), there are a few other ONE-STEP WEBSITES for the NY SHIP LISTS (including CASTLE GARDEN) that include entries from the years 1820 through 1957.
                 
                 
                When researching the databases, do not get stuck on any particular spelling.  When I did a search for using only the first three letters of the first name (AND) and the first three letters of the last name (LUK) and limited the birth year between 1862 and 1864, there were 21 entries that I found:
                 
                 
                With regard to the village name, please make sure you understand all of the alternative names of the village -- the Slovak name, Hungarian name, Latin name, German name, etc. of the village, as it may come in a different form than the name used today.  With regard to the name ANDRAS, also try alternative spellings that sound the same (such as ONDRAS, etc.)
                 
                With regard to HANUSOVCE, it is SPISSKE HANUSOVCE or HANUSOVCE NAD TOPLOU or another HANUSOVCE? 
                 
                I hope that this may help a little.
                 
                Best regards,
                 
                David
                 
                 
                 
                In a message dated 6/24/2014 9:40:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com writes:
                 

                Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that destroyed a lot of Castle Garden records. I, too, could not find my paternal grandfather, great-aunts and uncle’s entry for years. Then I learned about the fire. That can be why you have not found your great-grandfather’s entry.
                 
                Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:14 PM
                Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
                 
                 

                At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


                On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                 
                Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

                I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891




              • davidsadventure4
                Dear Peter and Mojher: Peter, you make some great points! Thank you for sharing. Mojher, you also make some great points. I was not aware of the 1995 census.
                Message 7 of 10 , Jun 24, 2014
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                  Dear Peter and Mojher:
                   
                  Peter, you make some great points!  Thank you for sharing.
                   
                  Mojher, you also make some great points.  I was not aware of the 1995 census.  I do like you point about looking at the concentration of surnames.  That can sometimes be very helpful (but can also possibly lead on a wild goose chase). I sometimes look for concentration of certain surnames in the 1715 Hungarian Urbarial Census in the ARCANUM database.  I do like the old version of the ARCANUM database, and have found a backdoor to it:
                   
                   
                  And here is a link to Bill Tarkulich's website regarding the ARCANUM database (old version):
                   
                   
                  I hope that this also helps a bit too for other researchers.
                   
                   
                  Best regards,
                   
                  David
                   
                  In a message dated 6/24/2014 11:46:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com writes:
                   

                  Hi everyone!
                  I'm going to butt in here. All the coding behind these 'front ends' of any databases do work with wildcards. You still need to be aware of major spelling variations though, especially if the spelling variations begin from the 2nd letter.
                  Nothing is better than an example:

                  Researching Marafko.

                  Searching MARA*  <---- that's an asterix meaning show all names that begin with MARA with any endings
                  Typical results: MARAVKO, MARAVKOVA, MARATKO, MARAWKOVICS etc.

                  This technique will not find MORAFKO as the 2nd letter is the variable.
                  You can use the exclamation point ! to replace a single letter in a search.
                  So M!RAF* would bring up MORAFKO.

                  All this went swimmingly for me and I thought I got all of them. But it was continual exposure to Slovak via these groups where I saw that many words in general have missing vowels to our English ears.
                  Searching MRAF* and MRAV* brought a new set of results (and consequently I made the journey to the Hungarian archives in Budapest).

                  Now there is a limit with these wildcards in that some databases require you to use 3 or 4 letters or otherwise will return no results. So MA* or MAR* will not work. Trial and error.

                  You can try these wildcards at familysearch, ellis island, MOL online etc,

                  The other aspect is that some names are translatable and depend somewhat on scribes' ethnicity, language skills and church and secular rubric. I have always wondered why LDS shows MORAVEK in the results. It was only 2 weeks ago when I finally got a reply from a MORAVKOVA in central Slovakia who informed me that MORAVKOVA is the female gender of MORAVEK as well as MORAVKO. I am still trying to work out if there is another MORAVEK-MORAVKO tie in.

                  So try * and !

                  Peter M.


                  On 25 June 2014 12:42, 'MGMojher' mgmojher@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS] <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                   

                  David,
                      Thanks for the valuable lesson.
                      If you use the Ellis Island website instead of Steve Morse’s ONE STEP you are presented with a long list of alternative spellings. That where the patience of doing genealogy comes in. One can search each alternative in hopes of making a “hit”. In my case Mojher didn’t work, but Majher did.
                      With Morse the “limited search” of just the first three letter of the surname is akin to the Ellis Island alternative spellings. In that you broaden the the search. You can then start to narrow the search by just using the first letter of the given name and continue through adding more letters of the name. The same goes for the surname. It is a variant on the “bullseye” search, of start narrow and go broader.
                      As for village names I still use http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/. It may be in Slovak, but by placing a village name or a surname in that box in the upper left you can get some valuable information. The village name can lead to a list of all the names the village has been known by and in what years. It will also tell you what Hungarian county it was in. The year range can be strange, in that there can be missing years. Nonetheless, at least you can have a good idea what the village was called during particular years.
                      As for surnames, the data base taps into the Slovak 1995 Census. It will give all the variant spellings of the name based on the use or not of the dialect marks. Then they tell you how many times that surname spelling was found in Slovakia and the number of locations it was found in. Only the “Top 10” locations are usually given, sometimes more if the list isn’t too much longer than 10. For rare surnames in Slovakia the Top 10 list can be great because if the village list is less than 10 you have a “bullseye” of possible locations. As it often happens the listed villages can be very close to one another. So you end up with a very distinctive “hood” for that surname.
                   
                  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:06 PM
                  Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
                   
                   

                  Hello:
                   
                  I am coming into this discussion a bit late so I may not know all of the background, but I wanted to share my experience with the Ellis Island records.  It took me a very long time (well over a year) to find my grandfather's Ellis Island record because it was under a variant in spelling that I had not thought of in my research queries.  Steve Morse's ONE STEP WEBSITES can be very valuable.  While his ONE STEP Ellis Island GOLD FORM and WHITE FORM searches only go back to 1892 (and thus would not detail your great-grandfather's entry prior to and/or in 1891), there are a few other ONE-STEP WEBSITES for the NY SHIP LISTS (including CASTLE GARDEN) that include entries from the years 1820 through 1957.
                   
                   
                  When researching the databases, do not get stuck on any particular spelling.  When I did a search for using only the first three letters of the first name (AND) and the first three letters of the last name (LUK) and limited the birth year between 1862 and 1864, there were 21 entries that I found:
                   
                   
                  With regard to the village name, please make sure you understand all of the alternative names of the village -- the Slovak name, Hungarian name, Latin name, German name, etc. of the village, as it may come in a different form than the name used today.  With regard to the name ANDRAS, also try alternative spellings that sound the same (such as ONDRAS, etc.)
                   
                  With regard to HANUSOVCE, it is SPISSKE HANUSOVCE or HANUSOVCE NAD TOPLOU or another HANUSOVCE? 
                   
                  I hope that this may help a little.
                   
                  Best regards,
                   
                  David
                   
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 6/24/2014 9:40:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com writes:
                   

                  Ellis Island opened in 1893. Before that was Castle Gardens whose records were transferred to Ellis Island. Unfortunately, Ellis Island had a fire that destroyed a lot of Castle Garden records. I, too, could not find my paternal grandfather, great-aunts and uncle’s entry for years. Then I learned about the fire. That can be why you have not found your great-grandfather’s entry.
                   
                  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:14 PM
                  Subject: Re: [S-R] Lukac" Church records catholic Hanusovce.
                   
                   

                  At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


                  On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                   
                  Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

                  I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891




                • Kristine
                  ... be in Slovak, but by placing a village name or a surname in that box in the upper left you can get some valuable information. IF you use Chrome as your
                  Message 8 of 10 , Jun 25, 2014
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                    >>>> As for village names I still use http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/. It may be in Slovak, but by placing a village name or a surname in that box in the upper left you can get some valuable information.


                    IF you use Chrome as your browser, it will automatically ask you if you'd like the page translated into English.  I don't use Chrome usually, but I downloaded it just so I can get webpages translated easily when the rare occasion arises.

                    I hope this helps someone. For those who are not computer savvy, it can seem overwhelming.  But if you can navigate genealogical records, you can do just about anything!  If you are stumped, maybe there's a teenager that you can ask.

                    :) Kristine


                  • John Magyari
                    It s helpful to know your sources What document lists him in 1891? Do you know his wife(s) name(s)?, when was he married? Was he listed in any US Census, which
                    Message 9 of 10 , Jun 25, 2014
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                      It's helpful to know your sources

                      What document lists him in 1891?
                      Do you know his wife(s) name(s)?, when was he married?
                      Was he listed in any US Census, which ones?
                      Do you know names of any his brothers/sisters?

                      The more info you provide helps others rules out those with a similar name.


                      On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:14 PM, 'William C. Wormuth' senzus@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS] <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                       

                      At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


                      On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                       
                      Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

                      I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891




                    • Gregory Lucotch
                      Andrej Lukac s headstone death was 1900. and it listed him as 37 years of age. He is buried in Calvary Cemetary in Great Falls, Montana. I found a baptismal
                      Message 10 of 10 , Jun 25, 2014
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                        Andrej Lukac 's headstone death was 1900. and it listed him as 37 years of age. He is buried in Calvary Cemetary in Great Falls, Montana. I found a baptismal record that listed that he was baptized 23 of July 1862. Source was Slovakia Church and synagogue Books, 1592- 1910.

                        His wife was Mary Laczko (Lacko?) She died April 13 1923 according to her death certificate. In the 1900 census there was no Andrew but she claimed to be married 9 years. Possible marriage would be 1891. Her immigration in the 1900 census is listed as 1890. There are no 1890 U.S. census because of a fire I was told. Her first son John, my grandfather was born June 19, 1893. he was baptized in St Ignatius Church just outside Centralia PA in 1893.

                        The 1900 census lists five childern. I found a birth certificate at St Ignatius church for;
                        John Lucotch June 19, 1893  Centralia, Pa
                        Maria Lucotch April 10. 1895  Centralia, PA
                        Andrew Lucotch July 21, 1897 Centralia PA
                        One missing child? no record
                        Steve Lucotch born 1900 in Montana. He was 20 years old in 1900 census.
                        this is what I know.
                        My dad always told me that Andrew came from Hanusovce but I have no proof other than oral history.
                        I wrote a letter to 3 Lukac' in Hanusovce but never heard back. It may have been my letter.
                        Greg Lucotch


                        On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:57 AM, "John Magyari jmagyari@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                         
                        It's helpful to know your sources

                        What document lists him in 1891?
                        Do you know his wife(s) name(s)?, when was he married?
                        Was he listed in any US Census, which ones?
                        Do you know names of any his brothers/sisters?

                        The more info you provide helps others rules out those with a similar name.


                        On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:14 PM, 'William C. Wormuth' senzus@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS] <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                         
                        At the time of his immigration his name would have been spelled Lukacs [Luh-kach].  In Slovak there is a small accent mark "v" over the c.


                        On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:27 PM, "glucotch@... [SLOVAK-ROOTS]" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                         
                        Andrej Lukac, my gGrandfather identified his village as Hanusovce. He was catholic. born in 1863

                        I cannot find any ship manifests as to his arrival in the u.s. Any help here.  he settled around Centralia PA and was there in 1891






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