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  • John
    Wow! The new Street View is just great. It would be better if there were street names in the small villages but that isn t the fault of Google Earth. There is
    Message 1 of 19 , Mar 8 6:15 AM
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      Wow! The new Street View is just great. It would be better if there were street names in the small villages but that isn't the fault of Google Earth. There is a bit of a learning curve on manipulating the direction of travel with your mouse wheel but it works and will be used at upcoming family get togethers.
    • Judy
      Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house
      Message 2 of 19 , Mar 8 8:27 AM
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        Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.


        It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

        Judy



        --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
        >
        > Judy,
        > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
        > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
        > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
        >
        > From: Judy
        > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
        > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
        >
        >
        > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
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      • John
        It can be a struggle to get the younger generation to be interested in their family history. The new Google Earth Street Views gave me an idea. This morning at
        Message 3 of 19 , Mar 8 8:31 AM
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          It can be a struggle to get the younger generation to be interested in their family history. The new Google Earth Street Views gave me an idea.

          This morning at 9:57, I sent a family email saying that there was a contest with a prize for those under age 20 and a different prize for anyone over age 20. On Google Earth Street View, they were to determine the brand of beer sold at cousin Frantisek's pub in Senne. In 42 minutes, 10 year old Kirsten had the answer. Three minutes later, Ethan, age 28, Canadian, studying in England but today visiting Switzerland, answered Saris correctly.

          Ain't technology wonderful?

          --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnqadam@...> wrote:
          >
          > Wow! The new Street View is just great. It would be better if there were street names in the small villages but that isn't the fault of Google Earth. There is a bit of a learning curve on manipulating the direction of travel with your mouse wheel but it works and will be used at upcoming family get togethers.
          >
        • Caye Caswick
            Also, depending on the region/village, you may or may not be able to go down the sidestreets -- in my village you can only navigate down the main drag.
          Message 4 of 19 , Mar 8 9:23 AM
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            Also, depending on the region/village, you may or may not be able to go down the "sidestreets" -- in my village you can only navigate down the "main drag."
             
             

            From: Judy <hogelj@...>
            To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 10:27 AM
            Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available

             


            Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.

            It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

            Judy

            --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
            >
            > Judy,
            > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
            > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
            > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
            >
            > From: Judy
            > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
            > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
            >
            >
            > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
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          • Bernardine Weigand
            Thank you Judy for reminding us of Goole s street view option. I never thought of using it for Slovakia. It was wonderful taking a virtual walk down the
            Message 5 of 19 , Mar 8 9:30 AM
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              Thank you Judy for reminding us of Goole's street view option. I never
              thought of using it for Slovakia. It was wonderful taking a "virtual"
              walk down the street in Cierne Pole. Having visited there back in
              2000 and 2002, I could easily find my cousin's house and see the newer
              paver driveway and re-modeling...positively amazing:)

              Bernardine

              On Mar 8, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Judy wrote:

              >
              >
              > Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in
              > the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR
              > discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the
              > homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes
              > from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a
              > current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a
              > much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current
              > house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.
              >
              > It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the
              > houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the
              > village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the
              > overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.
              >
              > Judy
              >
              > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > Judy,
              > > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in
              > 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great
              > to �drive� through the village and see what is new.
              > > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in
              > Slovakia. One has to take the numbers �with a grain of salt�, since
              > the location with the house number now can be way off from what it
              > was during those 1800�s records. The only way to know for sure is to
              > go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that
              > covers the years of the records.
              > > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something
              > new. During the 1800�s the square log cabin style house was the
              > standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the
              > �romantic� view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the
              > first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about
              > them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He
              > didn�t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950�s. Dry rot and
              > termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
              > >
              > > From: Judy
              > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
              > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
              > available
              > >
              > >
              > > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for
              > my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the
              > street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51
              > and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me
              > get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the
              > close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face
              > that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it
              > is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had
              > the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a
              > "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition
              > now too.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
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            • MGMojher
              Judy, You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their
              Message 6 of 19 , Mar 8 10:03 AM
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                Judy,
                You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided to arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive numbering system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number had to lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number is the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the 1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from what I observed.
                Make no assumptions about house numbers. As in genealogy, you need the record to confirm the fact. It was too bad that city hall map records were not filmed and put online.

                From: Judy
                Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available




                Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.

                It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

                Judy

                --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                >
                > Judy,
                > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                >
                > From: Judy
                > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                >
                >
                > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >





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              • Ron
                We should not forget Martin Votruba s writeup on house numbers: http://www.pitt.edu/~votruba/qsonhist/housenumbersslovakia.html
                Message 7 of 19 , Mar 8 10:07 AM
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                  We should not forget Martin Votruba's writeup on house numbers:
                  http://www.pitt.edu/~votruba/qsonhist/housenumbersslovakia.html


                  --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <hogelj@...> wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.
                  >
                  >
                  > It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.
                  >
                  > Judy
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Judy,
                  > > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                  > > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                  > > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                  > >
                  > > From: Judy
                  > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                  > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > >
                  >
                • lrrykck
                  Michael   I remember very well,  the thread on house numbers...  I also remember your comments on the subject....  Up until then I was also fairly certain
                  Message 8 of 19 , Mar 8 2:31 PM
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                    Michael

                      I remember very well,  the thread on house numbers...

                     I also remember your comments on the subject....

                     Up until then I was also fairly certain , that house numbers, being sequential, could not be altered.
                    I have to wonder if the instance you mention, where the mayor took the liberty to change the order, was something isolated, or if it could have happened in other villiages.

                     The instance of the fire and all the later built houses having to change also makes no sense...so like you advise, it's prudent to take this data with a grain of salt.   

                      About the Google "Street view", do you know a way to capture and save  an image?

                     In my ancestral village I was able to actually see faces of people on the streets.

                       T hanks again M ichael, for your advice on house numbers.

                    Larry Kocik 

                         


                    ----- Original Message -----


                    From: "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...>
                    To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:03:53 AM
                    Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available

                    Judy,
                        You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided to arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive numbering system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number had to lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                        In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number is the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the 1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from what I observed.
                        Make no assumptions about house numbers. As in genealogy, you need the record to confirm the fact. It was too bad that city hall map records were not filmed and put online.

                    From: Judy
                    Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                    To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available

                      


                    Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.

                    It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

                    Judy

                    --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Judy,
                    > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                    > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                    > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                    >
                    > From: Judy
                    > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                    > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                    > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                    >
                    >
                    > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >





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                  • Sharon Danko
                    Do you have to register to use Google street views? Exactly how do you go about finding the villages and then seeing the houses? Sharon From:
                    Message 9 of 19 , Mar 8 2:43 PM
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                      Do you have to register to use Google street views? Exactly how do you go about finding the villages and then seeing the houses?



                      Sharon



                      From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy
                      Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:28 AM
                      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available







                      Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.

                      It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

                      Judy

                      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> , "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Judy,
                      > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                      > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                      > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                      >
                      > From: Judy
                      > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                      >
                      >
                      > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                    • takukuk
                      Larry, to capture the photo on the screen: - click Function + Print screen buttons at the same time. - open a PowerPoint or Word doc and then click PASTE and
                      Message 10 of 19 , Mar 8 2:57 PM
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                        Larry, to capture the photo on the screen:

                        - click Function + Print screen buttons at the same time.
                        - open a PowerPoint or Word doc and then click PASTE and you will have an
                        image on those documents
                        - Once you have the image up, then you can "right mouse click" on "save
                        picture as" and then you will have a JPEG file that you can use for anything.

                        I use that for street view photos that end up on my family tree for each
                        residence that my family lived in. Though it is a current view of the
                        residence, it usually congers up memories of those who once lived there.

                        Tom Kukuk


                        In a message dated 3/8/2013 4:31:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
                        lkocik@... writes:






                        Michael

                        I remember very well, the thread on house numbers...

                        I also remember your comments on the subject....

                        Up until then I was also fairly certain , that house numbers, being
                        sequential, could not be altered.
                        I have to wonder if the instance you mention, where the mayor took the
                        liberty to change the order, was something isolated, or if it could have
                        happened in other villiages.

                        The instance of the fire and all the later built houses having to change
                        also makes no sense...so like you advise, it's prudent to take this data
                        with a grain of salt.

                        About the Google "Street view", do you know a way to capture and save an
                        image?

                        In my ancestral village I was able to actually see faces of people on the
                        streets.

                        T hanks again M ichael, for your advice on house numbers.

                        Larry Kocik



                        ----- Original Message -----

                        From: "MGMojher" <_mgmojher@..._ (mailto:mgmojher@...) >
                        To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
                        Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:03:53 AM
                        Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
                        available

                        Judy,
                        You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s
                        stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their
                        assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided to
                        arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house
                        burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive
                        numbering system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number
                        had to lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                        In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number is
                        the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building
                        was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the
                        1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from
                        what I observed.
                        Make no assumptions about house numbers. As in genealogy, you need the
                        record to confirm the fact. It was too bad that city hall map records were not
                        filmed and put online.

                        From: Judy
                        Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                        To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
                        Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
                        available



                        Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the
                        numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the
                        house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they
                        would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too
                        current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would
                        have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So
                        that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would
                        have been.

                        It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the
                        houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village,
                        where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far
                        as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

                        Judy

                        --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...>
                        wrote:
                        >
                        > Judy,
                        > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It
                        has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive”
                        through the village and see what is new.
                        > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in
                        Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the
                        location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those
                        1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town
                        City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                        > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new.
                        During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard.
                        Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of
                        those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos
                        lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually
                        rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before
                        the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log
                        cabins.
                        >
                        > From: Judy
                        > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                        > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                        > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                        >
                        >
                        > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my
                        villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view
                        option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and
                        some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of
                        what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually
                        see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have
                        always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of
                        us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did
                        not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition
                        now too.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        >

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                      • Julie Mark
                        No, Sharon. Go to google s homepage and click on maps at the top. Then type in your town. You will see a marker on the map (usually green with a letter A).
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                          No, Sharon. Go to google's homepage and click on maps at the top. Then type in your town. You will see a marker on the map (usually green with a letter A). Click on the marker and then click on street view. It's really quite remarkable.
                          Julie

                          Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T

                          Sharon Danko <SDinthevalley@...> wrote:

                          >Do you have to register to use Google street views? Exactly how do you go about finding the villages and then seeing the houses?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >Sharon
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy
                          >Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:28 AM
                          >To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                          >Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.
                          >
                          >It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.
                          >
                          >Judy
                          >
                          >--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> , "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                          >>
                          >> Judy,
                          >> My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                          >> In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                          >> Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                          >>
                          >> From: Judy
                          >> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                          >> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >> Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
                          >>
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                        • Judy
                          Another way to do it is to use the snipping tool in Windows Snipping Tool is an application that is a screen-capture tool that allows taking screenshots
                          Message 12 of 19 , Mar 8 3:22 PM
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                            Another way to do it is to use the "snipping tool" in Windows

                            Snipping Tool is an application that is a screen-capture tool that allows taking screenshots (called snips) of an open window, rectangular areas, a free-form area, or the entire screen. Snips can then be annotated using a mouse or a tablet, saved as an image file (PNG, GIF, or JPEG file) or an MHTML file, or e-mailed.

                            I've had it for so long on my computer, I can't remember how it was installed. If you google it, I'm sure you can find how to install it. It allows you to snip any sized part or all of the screen, then save or paste into documents just as Tom described.

                            --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, takukuk@... wrote:
                            >
                            > Larry, to capture the photo on the screen:
                            >
                            > - click Function + Print screen buttons at the same time.
                            > - open a PowerPoint or Word doc and then click PASTE and you will have an
                            > image on those documents
                            > - Once you have the image up, then you can "right mouse click" on "save
                            > picture as" and then you will have a JPEG file that you can use for anything.
                            >
                            > I use that for street view photos that end up on my family tree for each
                            > residence that my family lived in. Though it is a current view of the
                            > residence, it usually congers up memories of those who once lived there.
                            >
                            > Tom Kukuk
                            >
                            >
                            > In a message dated 3/8/2013 4:31:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
                            > lkocik@... writes:
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Michael
                            >
                            > I remember very well, the thread on house numbers...
                            >
                            > I also remember your comments on the subject....
                            >
                            > Up until then I was also fairly certain , that house numbers, being
                            > sequential, could not be altered.
                            > I have to wonder if the instance you mention, where the mayor took the
                            > liberty to change the order, was something isolated, or if it could have
                            > happened in other villiages.
                            >
                            > The instance of the fire and all the later built houses having to change
                            > also makes no sense...so like you advise, it's prudent to take this data
                            > with a grain of salt.
                            >
                            > About the Google "Street view", do you know a way to capture and save an
                            > image?
                            >
                            > In my ancestral village I was able to actually see faces of people on the
                            > streets.
                            >
                            > T hanks again M ichael, for your advice on house numbers.
                            >
                            > Larry Kocik
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            >
                            > From: "MGMojher" <_mgmojher@..._ (mailto:mgmojher@...) >
                            > To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
                            > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:03:53 AM
                            > Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
                            > available
                            >
                            > Judy,
                            > You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s
                            > stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their
                            > assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided to
                            > arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house
                            > burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive
                            > numbering system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number
                            > had to lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                            > In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number is
                            > the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building
                            > was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the
                            > 1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from
                            > what I observed.
                            > Make no assumptions about house numbers. As in genealogy, you need the
                            > record to confirm the fact. It was too bad that city hall map records were not
                            > filmed and put online.
                            >
                            > From: Judy
                            > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                            > To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
                            > Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
                            > available
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the
                            > numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the
                            > house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they
                            > would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too
                            > current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would
                            > have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So
                            > that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would
                            > have been.
                            >
                            > It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the
                            > houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village,
                            > where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far
                            > as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.
                            >
                            > Judy
                            >
                            > --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@>
                            > wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Judy,
                            > > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It
                            > has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive”
                            > through the village and see what is new.
                            > > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in
                            > Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the
                            > location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those
                            > 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town
                            > City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                            > > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new.
                            > During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard.
                            > Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of
                            > those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos
                            > lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually
                            > rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before
                            > the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log
                            > cabins.
                            > >
                            > > From: Judy
                            > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                            > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                            > > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my
                            > villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view
                            > option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and
                            > some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of
                            > what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually
                            > see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have
                            > always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of
                            > us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did
                            > not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition
                            > now too.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > >
                            >
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                          • MGMojher
                            Yes you can save an image from Google Earth. Click FILE+SAVE+SAVE IMAGE or Ctrl+Alt+S. From: lkocik@comcast.net Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:31 PM To:
                            Message 13 of 19 , Mar 8 3:42 PM
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                              Yes you can save an image from Google Earth. Click FILE+SAVE+SAVE IMAGE or Ctrl+Alt+S.

                              From: lkocik@...
                              Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:31 PM
                              To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available




                              Michael

                              I remember very well, the thread on house numbers...

                              I also remember your comments on the subject....

                              Up until then I was also fairly certain , that house numbers, being sequential, could not be altered.
                              I have to wonder if the instance you mention, where the mayor took the liberty to change the order, was something isolated, or if it could have happened in other villiages.

                              The instance of the fire and all the later built houses having to change also makes no sense...so like you advise, it's prudent to take this data with a grain of salt.

                              About the Google "Street view", do you know a way to capture and save an image?

                              In my ancestral village I was able to actually see faces of people on the streets.

                              T hanks again M ichael, for your advice on house numbers.

                              Larry Kocik



                              ----- Original Message -----

                              From: "MGMojher" <mailto:mgmojher%40verizon.net>
                              To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:03:53 AM
                              Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available

                              Judy,
                              You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the 1800’s stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided to arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive numbering system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number had to lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                              In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number is the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the 1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from what I observed.
                              Make no assumptions about house numbers. As in genealogy, you need the record to confirm the fact. It was too bad that city hall map records were not filmed and put online.

                              From: Judy
                              Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                              To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available



                              Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.

                              It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.

                              Judy

                              --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Judy,
                              > My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                              > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                              > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                              >
                              > From: Judy
                              > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                              > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                              > Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                              >
                              >
                              > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              >

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                            • boiirose
                              If the house was rebuilt on the same location by the same family the house number would be the same. However, when I went there I found that if the family
                              Message 14 of 19 , Mar 8 3:59 PM
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                                If the house was rebuilt on the same location by the same family the house number would be the same. However, when I went there I found that if the family rebuilt in another location, the house number followed the family. So you could have house numbers #1 #2 #3 #55 #6 #7 #42 in a block and then the other original families had rebuilt elsewhere.
                              • Bette
                                Mac users take a Screen Shot: Use Shift, Command, 3 or (4 if you want to crop and not take a shot of your hold screen). I take ScreenShots every day. It s a
                                Message 15 of 19 , Mar 8 4:45 PM
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                                  Mac users take a Screen Shot: Use Shift, Command, 3 or (4 if you want to crop and not take a shot of your hold screen). I take ScreenShots every day. It's a must for me!! I just took a pix of 2 houses in Jarovnice #71 & #70. If anyone wants to see them I can send directly as an attachment.
                                  Bette

                                  --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <hogelj@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
                                  >
                                • Margo Smith
                                  ...overall look as far as vegetation. . .  Vegetation changes.  (1)  One tidbit that hooked me on a desire to study my husband s Slovak ancestry was a
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Mar 8 5:56 PM
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                                    "...overall look as far as vegetation. . ."  Vegetation changes.  (1)  One tidbit that hooked me on a desire to study my husband's Slovak ancestry was a conversation I had with his grandfather.  He told me about his boyhood and that from his village in the Turiec Valley, he could look up on the mountain and see the ruins of a castle.  So on my first visit there in 2003, I was determined to see those ruins.  Binoculars in hand, I scanned those mountains searching unsuccessfully for the ruins.  Only dense spruce forest.  Later, I acquired a detailed hiking map on which the ruins were marked.  On a subsequent trip in 2006, I got to the ruins after a grueling hike.  The valley floor was barely visible through the forest.  In the 100 years since the grandfather had left his home village, the forest had grown up around the ruins and obscured them.  (2) While the valley is still agricultural, the fields are now large and squarish, a pattern
                                    introduced after WW II.  Photos from about 1900 show fields were long narrow stripes.  However, vestiges of these long narrow fields still remain in the villages.

                                    Margo



                                    >________________________________
                                    > From: Judy <hogelj@...>
                                    >To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                    >Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 10:27 AM
                                    >Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                                    >
                                    >

                                    >
                                    >
                                    >Thanks Michael for your caution against putting too much weight in the numbers on the current houses. I do recall the past SR discussions about the house numbers. From the looks of most of the homes, I didn't think that they would have been the actual homes from the 1800; they were just too current. But I did assume that a current-day house with a certain number would have simply replaced a much older home with the same number on that spot. So that a current house #17 would be on the spot that an 1800 house #17 would have been.
                                    >
                                    >It was still wonderful to see the villages as they are now - how the houses are situated so closely to the road, the overall size of the village, where the church was, apparent scarcity of businesses, the overall look as far as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.
                                    >
                                    >Judy
                                    >
                                    >--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
                                    >>
                                    >> Judy,
                                    >> My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the village and see what is new.
                                    >> In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
                                    >> Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new. During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard. Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.
                                    >>
                                    >> From: Judy
                                    >> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
                                    >> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                    >> Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available
                                    >>
                                    >>
                                    >> Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.
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                                    Judy and Tom  Thank you.... ... From: Judy To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 4:22:31 PM Subject: Re: [S-R]
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                                      Judy and Tom

                                       Thank you....



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                                      From: "Judy" <hogelj@...>
                                      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 4:22:31 PM
                                      Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available



                                      Another way to do it is to use the "snipping tool" in Windows

                                      Snipping Tool is an application that is a screen-capture tool that allows taking screenshots (called snips) of an open window, rectangular areas, a free-form area, or the entire screen. Snips can then be annotated using a mouse or a tablet, saved as an image file (PNG, GIF, or JPEG file) or an MHTML file, or e-mailed.

                                      I've had it for so long on my computer, I can't remember how it was installed.  If you google it, I'm sure you can find how to install it.  It allows you to snip any sized part or all of the screen, then save or paste into documents just as Tom described.

                                      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, takukuk@... wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Larry, to capture the photo on the screen:
                                      >  
                                      > - click Function + Print screen buttons at the same time.
                                      > - open a PowerPoint or Word doc and then click PASTE and you will have an  
                                      > image on those documents
                                      > - Once you have the image up, then you can "right mouse click" on  "save
                                      > picture as" and then you will have a JPEG file that you can use for  anything.
                                      >  
                                      > I use that for street view photos that end up on my family tree for each  
                                      > residence that my family lived in.  Though it is a current view of the  
                                      > residence, it usually congers up memories of those who once lived there.
                                      >  
                                      > Tom Kukuk
                                      >  
                                      >  
                                      > In a message dated 3/8/2013 4:31:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
                                      > lkocik@... writes:
                                      >
                                      >  
                                      >  
                                      >  
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Michael
                                      >
                                      > I remember very well,  the thread on  house numbers...
                                      >
                                      > I also remember your comments on the  subject....
                                      >
                                      > Up until then I was also fairly certain , that  house numbers, being
                                      > sequential, could not be altered.
                                      > I have to wonder if  the instance you mention, where the mayor took the
                                      > liberty to change the  order, was something isolated, or if it could have
                                      > happened in other  villiages.
                                      >
                                      > The instance of the fire and all the later built  houses having to change
                                      > also makes no sense...so like you advise, it's prudent  to take this data
                                      > with a grain of salt.    
                                      >
                                      > About  the Google "Street view", do you know a way to capture and save  an  
                                      > image?
                                      >
                                      > In my ancestral village I was able to actually see faces  of people on the
                                      > streets.
                                      >
                                      > T hanks again M ichael, for  your advice on house numbers.
                                      >
                                      > Larry Kocik  
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > ----- Original Message  -----
                                      >
                                      > From: "MGMojher" <_mgmojher@..._ (mailto:mgmojher@...) >
                                      > To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)  
                                      > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:03:53 AM
                                      > Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street  Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now
                                      > available
                                      >
                                      > Judy,
                                      > You cannot assume that the house of today is where the house in the  1800’s
                                      > stood. As part of the discussion on house numbers I found that their  
                                      > assignment can change. I pointed out how in one village the new mayor decided  to
                                      > arbitrarily change the numbering system. Another instance was when a house  
                                      > burned down and was not rebuilt it created a gap in the consecutive
                                      > numbering  system of the houses. To correct that every house with a higher number
                                      > had to  lower the house number by one to keep the count correct.
                                      > In Slovakia you will see building with two numbers on them. One number  is
                                      > the street address. The second is number tells you what number the building  
                                      > was built in town. So 82/1476 the 82 is the street number and it was the  
                                      > 1476th building constructed. This system is only used in larger towns from  
                                      > what I observed.
                                      > Make no assumptions about house  numbers. As in genealogy, you need the
                                      > record to confirm the fact. It was too  bad that city hall map records were not
                                      > filmed and put online.
                                      >
                                      > From:  Judy
                                      > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 8:27 AM
                                      > To: _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)  
                                      > Subject: Re: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now  
                                      > available
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Thanks Michael for your caution against  putting too much weight in the
                                      > numbers on the current houses. I do recall the  past SR discussions about the
                                      > house numbers. From the looks of most of the  homes, I didn't think that they
                                      > would have been the actual homes from the  1800; they were just too
                                      > current. But I did assume that a current-day house  with a certain number would
                                      > have simply replaced a much older home with the  same number on that spot. So
                                      > that a current house #17 would be on the spot  that an 1800 house #17 would
                                      > have been.
                                      >
                                      > It was still wonderful to see  the villages as they are now - how the
                                      > houses are situated so closely to the  road, the overall size of the village,
                                      > where the church was, apparent scarcity  of businesses, the overall look as far
                                      > as vegetation, hills, mountains etc.  
                                      >
                                      > Judy
                                      >
                                      > --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher"  <mgmojher@>
                                      > wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > Judy,
                                      > > My ancestral  village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It
                                      > has been three years  since I was there last. It was great to “driveâ€Â�
                                      > through the village and  see what is new.
                                      > > In the past we had an in-depth discussion about  house numbers in
                                      > Slovakia. One has to take the numbers “with a grain of  saltâ€Â�, since the
                                      > location with the house number now can be way off from what  it was during those
                                      > 1800’s records. The only way to know for sure is to go  to the village/town
                                      > City Hall and see if they have a map that covers the years  of the records.
                                      > > Also, the house that is on the lot today is more  likely something new.
                                      > During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was  the standard.
                                      > Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the  Ã¢Â€Âœromanticâ€Â� view of
                                      > those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first  time. The Mayor of Hromos
                                      > lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me  that they were usually
                                      > rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos  was built before
                                      > the 1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of  those log
                                      > cabins.
                                      > >
                                      > > From: Judy
                                      > > Sent: Thursday, March  07, 2013 6:03 PM
                                      > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
                                      > >  Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available  
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > Never before did I have "street view" available on  Google Maps for my
                                      > villages. I don't know exactly when this change happened,  but the street view
                                      > option is now available for the main road (highway 51 and  highway 590) and
                                      > some side streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty  good view of
                                      > what my villages look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can  actually
                                      > see the house numbers if they face that street. Maybe some of you  have
                                      > always had this before, but it is a wonderful change for me. Great for  those of
                                      > us who have not had the opportunity to travel there in person. If you  did
                                      > not have a "street view" of your village before, maybe you have the  addition
                                      > now too.
                                      > >
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