Re: [S-R] Translation Help
- On the other hand the K word in image 2 looks peculiarly like krčma - which
in Hungarian is Kocsma - which means hotel/pub.
On that basis, the first word is slavic.
On 12 December 2012 11:37, htcstech <htcstech@...> wrote:
> Hello Bill,
> Those images are pretty well buried in your upload. If you got these
> online, then it is much easier for us if you copy and paste the link in a
> reply to this. Otherwise, you can state the region/district/town and type
> of record (eg birth) and we can follow that to get a more comprehensive
> view where we can compare the writing style for each entry. Also latin
> entries were interrupted with localized language around 1849, so that would
> help us as well.
> I think that both sets of words are the same (or almost), but written by a
> different hand.
> The entry is in latin, thought the 2 words after Maria don't appear to be.
> Image 2: looks like szra()ci is Szta()c() <--SZ is Hungarian for S
> Image 3: looks like starefo is Statcs()
> Image 2: Kicma (pronounced Kitchma)
> Image 3: K(ol)csma - can be Kitcsma <cs is pronounced Ch as in church.
> Now considering that the little upstroke before the c in image 2 for
> Sztatcs could be a t and so there is a phonetic similarity with image 3's
> The same can be said for the other word.
> I think that both words sounded foreign to the scribe who wrote it the
> best he could. I don't think it is Hungarian.
> If you are sure that it is not her maiden name - or if he didn't remarry,
> then the likelyhood is that it is a placename (from this village), an
> alias, or even a job description.
> Peter M.
> On 12 December 2012 09:32, William <wsmorey@...> wrote:
>> I just uploaded two files labeled Maria Czmorej Scan 2 and Scan 3. I have
>> struggled with interpreting the writing under her name for some time to no
>> avail. I have the marriage record and other church records which show her
>> maiden name as Janossy. In both files it looks like the second word is
>> something like "krcma" but the first word is different in each file. Any
>> help appreciated. Bill
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- Eugene,In the 1995 Slovak Census the surnames Kladzan and Szkladani only have one listing each. Kladzan in eastern Slovakia, Michalovce, and Szklandani in western Slovakia, Bratislava.Family Search had no listing for Szklandani in Vinne. It did have some Kladzan in Vinne among 1353 listings for Kladzan - https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3AKladzan~%20%2Brecord_country%3A%22Slovakia%22Your Hladky in the 1995 census:Priezvisko HLADKY sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 2×, celkový počet lokalít: 2, v lokalitách:
ŽIHÁREC, okr. GALANTA (od r. 1996 ŠAĽA) – 1×;
VINNÉ, okr. MICHALOVCE – 1×;Priezvisko PIKULA sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 92×, celkový počet lokalít: 37, najčastejšie výskyty v lokalitách:The census had no listing for Labadov, one alternative was given -Priezvisko LABANOV sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 1×, celkový počet lokalít: 1, v lokalitách:
HOLÍČ, okr. SENICA (od r. 1996 SKALICA) – 1×;An interesting name, "Georgius Szkladani " and year "1783" which caught my attention and leaves me to wonder, given the rarity of the surname itself, if there might be a connection in any way between it and the "Kladzan" surname of my ancestor, Joannes Kladzan, found in the RC church records of village Vinne, Slovakia,1828, the year and place of his birth and baptism. The "Kladzan" spelling survived in my branch of the family until 1910 when it suddenly appeared as "Klodzen" in the US Census of that year. For us it's remained that way ever since, another branch of the family continues the "Kladzan" spelling .Eugene KlodzenResearching KLADZAN, HLADKY, PIKULA, LABADOV