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  • Ron
    Vilo, Ladislav expressed it well. But you presented a good opportunity to list off some reading people should do. Thanks. Ron
    Message 1 of 81 , Dec 4, 2012
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      Vilo,

      Ladislav expressed it well. But you presented a good opportunity to list off some reading people should do. Thanks.

      Ron

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@...> wrote:
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      > I am familiar with the History.  As a matter of fact I am a Tisovec.
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      > Z Bohom,
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      > Vilo
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      > ________________________________
      > From: Ron <amiak27@...>
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:49 PM
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] New Member
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      > Vilo,
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      > Thanks for responding, but I feel I must make a few important corrections before this topic goes too far. Everyone here needs to do a bit of basic homework, because this history is too complicated, too political and too emotional to be discussed profitably at any great length on this Genealogical forum.
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      > To repeat, questioners and answering people, you owe it to yourselves and the rest of us to do some basic reading. There is so much propaganda on this topic that Wikipedia may well be as accurate as anything else you find on the web - there is a lot of nonsense and inflammatory writing out there, and forums out there for people who like to argue history.
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      > Corrections:
      > The first Slovak Republic was set up in 1939, with Tiso as president. Google First Slovak Republic.
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      > German colonists were invited into the country in the 1200's to help rebuild and repopulate after the devastation of the Mongol / Tatar invasions of 1242. There was another wave, perhaps in the 1400's.
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      > Germans were kicked out of CzechoSlovakia in 1945 and after WW II. Google Benes Decrees; Carpathian Germans; Zips Germans; german expulsion.
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      > Josef Tiso: google his name to find out if he was premier, prime minister or president 1939 - 1945. That was a very controversial time and there are strong opinions about him and his government.
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      > Another topic to google is 'holocaust in Slovakia' for another part of history with several perspectives. I suspect the Germans were kicked out more for their 5th Column activities in WW II and not over indignation at the Jewish Holocaust.
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      > So on with the homework! When you come back to the forum with this topic, try to keep it as close to genealogical as possible. There are many controversial stories to be learned above, and this is NOT the forum to hash these out!
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      > Ron
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "William C. Wormuth" <senzus@> wrote:
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      > > Cynthia,
      > >
      > > "not trying to be a hater but probably her parents were thrown back to
      > > Germany after WWII. This is common knowledge the Slovaks in disgust of
      > > the holocaust (real or not) evicted the German colonists out of the
      > > country."
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      > > In 1929, the first Slovak Republic was founded.  The first Prime Minister was Monsignor Jozef Tiso:
      > >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_Republic_%281939%E2%80%931945%29
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      > > I have never heard of German colonists arriving in Slovakia nor of evictions of "German colonists" during WWII. There were historic towns colonized by Germans, Hungarian and Rusin Towns.
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      > >
      > > From where did you get information on this??
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      > >
      > > I do know that Czechoslovakia evicted Germans from Sudetenland but this was long before WWII.
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      > > I do know many people who made errors in immigration records because Records in Ellis Island listed the immigrants arriving before the fall of the Austria Hungary monarchy, were listed as German, (Austrian), or Hungarian.  Our Slovak ancestors were often , (at least), bi-lingual, (Slovak, Hungarian or German), and very often tri-lingual, (All three).
      > >
      > >  In your message following this, are you referring to the Reformation and Counter-Reformation??  
      > >
      > > I do not know if you have contacted people there but  here is the site for the Lutheran University in Bratislava:
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      > > http://wmltblog.org/2012/11/slovakia-the-evangelical-lutheran-church-of-the-augsburg-confession-2/
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      > > Z Bohom,
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      > > Vilo
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      > > ________________________________
      > > From: leporis1 <leporis1@>
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:09 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [S-R] New Member
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      > >
      > >  
      > > Hi,
      > >
      > > not trying to be a hater but probably her parents were thrown back to Germany after WWII. This is common knowledge the Slovaks in disgust of the holocaust (real or not) evicted the German colonist out of the country. Not sure when Nimitz brought to Texas to join other German farmers but very often I see Germans that claim ancestry in SR and CZ Rep. here in Texas. Germans colonist were always subject to suspicion. Since they were sent back to a particular village in Germany I would look there as well. Bingen, Germany.
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      > > LLeporis
      > >
      > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "deeellessbee" <deeellessbee@> wrote:
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      > > > Yes, Cynthia, I'm interested as well. How does one get kicked out of a country? :) Do tell!
      > > >
      > > > Welcome!
      > > > Debbie
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, htcstech <htcstech@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Hello Cynthia and welcome.
      > > > > When you get a chance, you must tell your story about them getting kicked
      > > > > out! It wasn't the Benes Decree was it?
      > > > >
      > > > > Peter M.
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      > > > >
      > > > > On 30 November 2012 01:14, Cynthia Heyman <cynthia@> wrote:
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      > > > > > Hello, I just joined the group and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is
      > > > > > Cynthia Heyman, currently living in Salt Lake City, Utah.
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      > > > > > My Mother was born in Limbach, Slovakia, in 1939. I have her Mother's and
      > > > > > Grandmother's names, but not much more than that, and I'm interested in
      > > > > > finding out more about our ancestry. They were kicked out of Slovakia in
      > > > > > the early 1940s and returned to live in Bingen, Germany, where my mom grew
      > > > > > up. She moved to the USA in the 1960s.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > My Father is Danish and I'm also enjoying researching his ancestry as well.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Nice to 'meet' everyone.
      > > > > > Cynthia
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      > > > > > http://tiptail.com
      > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/cynthiablue
      > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/ColliesNFarmdogs
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    • John
      ... Acquiring new memberships at Slovak World is seemingly impossible. Greg Kopchak is not responding.
      Message 81 of 81 , Dec 8, 2012
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        >>> Anyone who wishes to explore THAT topic should do so on Slovak World, please! <<<

        Acquiring new memberships at Slovak World is seemingly impossible. Greg Kopchak is not responding.
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