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  • William C. Wormuth
    Google Orovan Slovak....  You will find the Jewish family information. Z Bohom, Vilo ________________________________ From: Sue Martin
    Message 1 of 53 , Sep 8, 2012
      Google Orovan Slovak....  You will find the Jewish family information.

      Z Bohom,

      Vilo




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      From: Sue Martin <martin@...>
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:30 PM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Help with FamilySearch information


       

      Julie, thanks - very helpful comments.

      Most of these names come from the recent addition of Slovak church and synagogue records. Some of the original documents are not available online, so I can't check those. The earliest one - Catharina Orowan born in 1730 - does show the original record, and I cannot figure out how the transcriber managed to get 'Orowan' from what is written; to me, it doesn't look anything like it.

      Another, slightly later, one seems to be much more clearly 'Orovan.'

      You have pushed me in the right direction of assessing carefully what I'm looking at, and that's much appreciated.

      Sue

      -----Original Message-----
      From: "Julie Michutka" <jmm@...>
      Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:32pm
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Help with FamilySearch information

      On Sep 8, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Sue Martin wrote:
      > I have not until now run across any recent Orovans or Orowans who are not part of my family. So, my question is, how should I be looking at these 18th century records? It's an unusual name; can I assume that these are also ancestors, and try to find a link to my known ancestor who was born in 1741? If these records are in FamilySearch, why can't I find a trace of them in ancestry.com? Are FamilySearch records to be trusted? They seem legitimate.
      >
      > Any thoughts will be most appreciated.

      Sue, when you say "records," are you talking about images of old records such as baptismal registers, or just information (names, dates, places) extracted and transcribed?

      The reason I ask is because of your question, "Are FamilySearch records to be trusted?" If you are looking at digital images of original records, then you assess the trustworthiness of those particular records; FamilySearch is simply (!) providing us with a way to see them without going to the archives in Slovakia ourselves. If by "records" you mean indexes and information from original records that have been transcribed by volunteers or submitted by other people researching their families, well, it will depend on the accuracy of the person doing the transcribing. FamilySearch has a system for double-checking the indexing work done by volunteers, but there is still no substitute for looking at the entire original record yourself.

      I'm finding that some Slovak records have been indexed on FamilySearch but the images of the actual records are not yet online. However, you could still order the microfilm and look at the records that way. Or just wait until the microfilms are digitized; they're coming online so quickly now!

      I don't think you're going to find 18th century Slovak/Hungarian records in Ancestry.com, even in the international subscription. Granted, I haven't checked lately, but it just doesn't seem to be a time and place that they are focussing on.

      Julie Michutka
      [mailto:jmm%40pathbridge.net] jmm@...

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    • William C. Wormuth
      Google Orovan Slovak....  You will find the Jewish family information. Z Bohom, Vilo ________________________________ From: Sue Martin
      Message 53 of 53 , Sep 8, 2012
        Google Orovan Slovak....  You will find the Jewish family information.

        Z Bohom,

        Vilo




        ________________________________
        From: Sue Martin <martin@...>
        To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:30 PM
        Subject: Re: [S-R] Help with FamilySearch information


         

        Julie, thanks - very helpful comments.

        Most of these names come from the recent addition of Slovak church and synagogue records. Some of the original documents are not available online, so I can't check those. The earliest one - Catharina Orowan born in 1730 - does show the original record, and I cannot figure out how the transcriber managed to get 'Orowan' from what is written; to me, it doesn't look anything like it.

        Another, slightly later, one seems to be much more clearly 'Orovan.'

        You have pushed me in the right direction of assessing carefully what I'm looking at, and that's much appreciated.

        Sue

        -----Original Message-----
        From: "Julie Michutka" <jmm@...>
        Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:32pm
        To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [S-R] Help with FamilySearch information

        On Sep 8, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Sue Martin wrote:
        > I have not until now run across any recent Orovans or Orowans who are not part of my family. So, my question is, how should I be looking at these 18th century records? It's an unusual name; can I assume that these are also ancestors, and try to find a link to my known ancestor who was born in 1741? If these records are in FamilySearch, why can't I find a trace of them in ancestry.com? Are FamilySearch records to be trusted? They seem legitimate.
        >
        > Any thoughts will be most appreciated.

        Sue, when you say "records," are you talking about images of old records such as baptismal registers, or just information (names, dates, places) extracted and transcribed?

        The reason I ask is because of your question, "Are FamilySearch records to be trusted?" If you are looking at digital images of original records, then you assess the trustworthiness of those particular records; FamilySearch is simply (!) providing us with a way to see them without going to the archives in Slovakia ourselves. If by "records" you mean indexes and information from original records that have been transcribed by volunteers or submitted by other people researching their families, well, it will depend on the accuracy of the person doing the transcribing. FamilySearch has a system for double-checking the indexing work done by volunteers, but there is still no substitute for looking at the entire original record yourself.

        I'm finding that some Slovak records have been indexed on FamilySearch but the images of the actual records are not yet online. However, you could still order the microfilm and look at the records that way. Or just wait until the microfilms are digitized; they're coming online so quickly now!

        I don't think you're going to find 18th century Slovak/Hungarian records in Ancestry.com, even in the international subscription. Granted, I haven't checked lately, but it just doesn't seem to be a time and place that they are focussing on.

        Julie Michutka
        [mailto:jmm%40pathbridge.net] jmm@...

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