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A friend of my wife is named Havran and sent the
following two messages to me.
Havran is not Jewish but Bohemian. My husband's father
full blooded bohemian. His father did not learn
English until he was 8
years old. His parents came from Bohemia. I will look
up our family
history document that a cousin researched and let you
know what it
Havran came from Skuch (sp) and Prague. What is your
This is what we know about our Havran ancestry. It's
not much but maybe
it would help you.
Frank Havran married Christina Novak (we only know the
b. ??? John
b. 2 February 1864 Frank Havran (son of above)in
d. 26 Dec 1942 (frank)
m. 1885 or 1886Anna Krejci (or Krejcova) in Skuch,
b. 2 Feb 1964 in Bohemia
d. 19 Dec 1952 (anna)
Frank and Anna Havran
b. 15 Sept 1886 Frank in Bohemia (my husband's
b. 24 Nov 1888 John in Bohemia
b. 10 Dec 1890 Louie in Bohemia
b. 1894 or 1895 Joe (first) d. 1987
b. 27 Feb 1896 Agnes
b. 26 Dec 1987 Joe
b. 27 Jan 1903 Charles
b. 13 Apr 1906 Rudolph
b. 1908 or 1909 Emil d. 1908 or 1909
Frank (Anna's husband) came to America in 1893 and
Anna followed a year
later with 3 sons. Frank, John and Louis. The father
Frank became an
American citizen in 1901. They settled in central
Iowa. Frank worked
the railroad and took up farming 1905.
Grandpa Frank said they lived on 14 acres in Bohemia.
His father Frank
(Anna's husband) was a shoemaker. They lived in a
house with a dirt
floor. Grandpa Frank remembers his father plowing the
fields with the
Son Frank (b. 1886) married Agnes Kosnar in 1910
b. 1911 Evelyn
b. 1916 Virgil d. 1978
b. 1924 Lester (This is my husbands father)
Frank (Anna's husband) had a brother John in the old
food by poaching on game preserves. Frank (Agnes
or Chrudim in Bohemia on his wedding certificate. (A
cousin of my
husbands sent a letter to census office (matrikaurad)
in both Budisov
Chrudim. The Chrudim was returned "unknown". The
Budisov letter was
Frank, John and Louis remember playing with cousins in
coming to America.
This is all we know. Hope this helps. If you find a
connection to our
line, let us know.
We have always been told that Havran means raven.
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- --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@y..., Tim Skvarenina <tskvarenina@y...> wrote:
> This is all we know. Hope this helps. If you find aahoj !
> connection to our
> line, let us know.
> We have always been told that Havran means raven.
> Krejcova means
> Laura Havran
Havran means 'raven' and 'vrána' means crow in Czech.
The Czech telephone directory lists 14 surname Havran under Praha.
Skuch is probably Skutec^ (C) Skutsch (G) located 70 miles ESE of
Former Czech-Bohemia had both Czech towns and German towns.
Following WW II, the German names were changed to Czech names.
There are probably 300-400 surname Havran bearers just in the U.S.
Perhaps 1300-2000 surname Krejci bearers just in the U.S.
Krejc^ová would be the feminine gender form (-ová) of the family
name, Krejc^í, and used just in Europe.
Krejcova doesn't mean 'tailor'.
Krejc^í is the occupational surname, meaning 'tailor'.
With so many surname bearers, pre-emigration surname village/town of
origin is required to determine possible relationships with other same
Post-emigration surname information will mean very little.