Re: [S-R] Would Like Some Help If Possible
- Thank you so much for this valuable information. I will take your advice
and work slowly backwards. I guess what I was really looking for was web
sites to browse as I am only familiar with familysearch.org and ancestry.com.
If anyone could recommend other web sites, I would be very grateful. Thank
you again, Sandra
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:13 AM, htcstech <htcstech@...> wrote:
> Hello Sandra,
> I can tell you how I found how my ancestors 'migrated' from town to town
> until they settled.
> It's not easy work, though it paid dividends.
> That is, to radiate outwards away from Lony, ignoring borders and check
> every church for records of the name - but only before the date of the last
> confirmed entry in Kiss~Nagy Lony. So if your GGParents were born in 1900,
> you are looking for records prior to that time. If you find no record
> working backwards for about 25 years, then move on. I prefer to start with
> death records as often they have the place of birth listed for the
> The easiest way to do this is to follow the road and river network of the
> time and by plotting the name Janu using the Cisarik website. Cisarik is
> not infallible as it only shows data from 1715 (tax records of peasants)
> and 2005+ telephone directory entries, but it may give clues.
> There are also tax records of 1720 where the name can be searchable.
> There are absolutely no guarantees in your belief that because Janu is not
> a Hungarian name, that it is Slovak/Rusyn or Czech. Millions of Hungarians
> have non-Hungarian names, and name etymology has proven in a significant
> amount of cases that last names do not equate to ethnicity. I think what
> you are actually looking for is the origin of the name?
> Janu is a form of John in Czech. In Hungarian it is Janos (nickname as Jani
> as in Johnny), Latin = Joannes. You should ask yourself how was that name
> given to your ancestor, or more correctly, why did he call himself that?
> When you go through that process and deal with the possibilities, it could
> come down to the following:
> 1. He was named after the apostle - ie for religious or church reasons,
> maybe after a famous identity or a place referred to as Janu for example.
> 2. His name was John, and his family was known as John's, so you had names
> like Maria John, George John etc.
> On that note, name order convention between Latin and Hungarian switched in
> 1849, So John Miller became Miller John - Doubtful but possible. Most
> recently I have seen many examples of this as late as 1946, where family
> names were turned around between Czech and Magyar forms *on the same page*
> in official documentation AND spelled in Czech and not in the original
> 3. His name got Slavicised from Joannes to Janu.
> 4. It was Jeno (Magyar) and due to local dialect, he was called Janu
> 5. He was gyan�s, therefore transliterated into Janu. Gyanus means
> suspicious and there is a form of the word spelled gyanu which sounds
> remarkably similar to janu. This is called 'ornametal naming' like
> 'blondie' or 'woody' etc.
> You may be left with the conclusion that although Janu sounds unique, it is
> in fact untraceable to a specific location because of naming conventions.
> In your case it may not matter since you should be looking for
> concentrations of the name Janu in different towns and villages and that
> will provide the original location.
> On 4 June 2012 12:51, Sandra Hansen <sjhoreo@...> wrote:
> > **
> > I have been researching my Hungarian roots and have been led to believe
> > that those roots may have begun in eastern Slovakia. The surname is JANU
> > (without the accent on the 'u'). It apparently is not a Hungarian
> > but a Slovakian one. My grandparents were born in Kislonya and Nagylonya
> > Hungary. The 2 towns consolidated in 1934 to become Lonya. The town is
> > very close to the very southeastern border of Slovakia. I have been able
> > to obtain information regarding my Hungarian roots only as far back as my
> > great-grandparents. I believe further research is needed to see if there
> > is a Slovakian connection and perhaps my earlier relatives migrated from
> > Slovakia to Hungary. Other than ancestry.com and LDS records, I am
> > for resources to see if there is just such a connection. Any advice would
> > be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Sandra L Janu (McLean,
> > Virginia)
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