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  • jdkocis
    Thank you, Carl. I ve grown somewhat spoiled lately, viewing the Slovak Church Records online. I haven t been to the local Family History Center for several
    Message 1 of 9 , Apr 17, 2012
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      Thank you, Carl.

      I've grown somewhat spoiled lately, viewing the Slovak Church Records online. I haven't been to the local Family History Center for several months. But, I will request the films that you suggest today. I will let you know the results when I have completed the search.

      Jerry

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" <carl.kotlarchik@...> wrote:
      >
      > I may be more hopeful than others here in that I think you have a good chance of finding Pal's military records. I say this because the personnel records for IR66 do exist for the years of 1861-1869.
      >
      > The inhaber (honorary owner) of the regiment was Ferdinand IV, Grossherzog Von Toscana. Pal was 24 years old in 1868 so he would have been born around 1844. Consequently, he would have been conscripted between 1864 and 1867. This also fits with his getting married in 1868 since men were not permitted to get married while on their first tour of duty. Therefore, I think you can assume that he was in the army during the Seven Weeks War in the year 1866. This is the war that Austria fought against Prussia and Italy. Austria had over 500,000 men under arms during this war so again, it suggests that Pal would have served at this time.
      >
      > IR66 was in the Army of the South and actually fought in Italy during this war. It took part in the battle at Custozza on on June 24, 1866. This was a major battle in the war and Austria was vastly outnumbered by the Italians. But despite this, they won a decisive victory. Many men in IR66 were decorated for their participation in this battle. There are many articles and books on this battle so you can read up on it if you are interested. IR66 also participated in the attack at Monte Belvedere. And finally, the 4th battalion of the regiment was in the engagement at Versa. Austria won the war against Italy but it lost the war against Prussia and was forced to give up its Italian holdings. In any case, IR66 has a pretty interesting history.
      >
      > Now, you should look for the grundbuchblatter (personnel records)for Pal. Unfortunately, they are not indexed by name but by class year. The LDS has filmed the records for IR66 and they are on 7 rolls of microfilm. Here is a link to these films:
      > https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-search-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F482421
      >
      > Basically, you have to guess were to start looking because the films are not well labeled. I would suggest that you start with films 1393779 and 1393780. These should be around the middle years of the 1860s. Look for groups of soldiers with birth years around 1844. Once you find those, you can look for Pal's record. (You will find an example of a grundbuchblatter record in my blog article. It is for my great-grandfather who also fought in this war.) I would scan the films quickly to see if you can find a section with birth years of 1843 to 1845. If you can't find those, you may have to order one of the other films.
      >
      > good luck and please let us know what you find,
      > Carl K.
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "jdkocis" <jdkocis@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Thanks, again!
      > >
      > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, htcstech <htcstech@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Carl Kotlarchi's site is a good place to start if you want to find out
      > > > more:
      > > > http://ahmilitary.blogspot.com.au/2011/03/guide-for-locating-austro-hungarian.html
      > > >
      > > > As for the Tuscany placement, there is an interesting piece in Wikipedia on
      > > > the 3rd War of Italian Independence:
      > > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Prussian_War
      > > > Basically, your ancestor joined up during relative times of peace, and by
      > > > the looks of it, joined the combined Austro-Hungarian army and not the
      > > > Hungarian army. I think the personel records for that time period were lost
      > > > though.
      > > >
      > > > Peter M.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On 14 April 2012 08:13, jdkocis <jdkocis@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > **
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Please help me with a translation?
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22649-1185-80?cc=1554443&wc=MMVV-K5Z:n1928786892
      > > > >
      > > > > The link above is for FamilySearch.org, Slovakia Church Records, Roman
      > > > > Catholic, Trebisov, Trebisov, "Marriages, deaths, index (Manželstvá,
      > > > > úmrtia, zoznam) 1764-1895" image 140 of 360.
      > > > >
      > > > > The last entry on the right-hand page, is dated 5 February 1868 and
      > > > > records the marriage of Pal Balashazi and Erzsebet Bozosi.
      > > > >
      > > > > I cannot make sense of the three lines of text between the groom's name
      > > > > and the bride's name. I believe it refers to an infantry unit. Can anyone
      > > > > provide a translation?
      > > > >
      > > > > Thank you.
      > > > > Jerry
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > > >
      > >
      >
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