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Re: [S-R]TOM GEISS Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Kr asznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hunga ry

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  • Michael Mojher
    Tom, I mentioned “sister city” because Jane wrote, “...I will call the Younstown Ohio county clerks office, (sister city of Spisske Nova Ves), they
    Message 1 of 11 , Feb 12, 2012
      Tom,
      I mentioned “sister city” because Jane wrote, “...I will call the Younstown Ohio county clerks office, (sister city of Spisske Nova Ves), they probably have phone numbers and address since they are mutually tied together.” If your contact might help Jane I’m sure she would appreciate it.

      From: tom geiss
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:41 PM
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary


      Michael, you mentioned "Sister City"? Did you know that Spisska Nova Ves and Youngstown , Ohio are sister cities?
      I know someone in Youngstown who used to be the one in charge. Tom
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      From: Michael Mojher
      To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:15 PM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      Jane,
      The address for the State District Archive is:
      Statny Okresny Archiv v Spisskej Novej Vsi
      052 80 Spisska Nova Ves
      Slovak Republic
      Telephone – 0965/ 243 39
      My book on the Slovak Archives gives the in general terms the holdings of each archive. There are the Municipal Authorities of Spisska Nova Ves from 13th Century to 1922 at the State District Archive.
      I would attempt a letter in English. There are well educated people at the archives. And English has been the second language taught in school since the Velvet Divorce. It might be best to use as simple a sentence as possible.
      As for find the house that was 520 Iglo this has some aspects that making the house that bears that number today may not be the one that had it in the 1800’s. Sometime back there was a long discussion about house numbers on S-R. You can search for that thread at the website. If you are really lucky there may be a map. In the past there were no street names, just the house numbers. One system was to give the number according to when it was built, so 520 meant the 520th house built. Another system was a numeral count not related to being built. I found in my village that if a house burnt down all houses above that number had to lower their number by one so count remained in order.
      As for the relative that was the music teacher I would contact the city hall in the town. If they don’t have the information they might know if the school or its records still exist in one of the archives. I would think contacting the church in the town might be good. He could have been a choir director.
      The sister city contact could be useful. I would assume that someone in Slovakia who speaks English communicates to someone here. The person in Slovakia might be willing to assist you.

      From: Jane Murray
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:37 PM
      To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      Dear Michael,
      Do you know the address for the State District Archive in Spisske Nova Ves? Do I have to write in the Slovak language? I would like to write to them to get an old map with a location of house #520 Iglo. It is probably reaching since I do not have a street name. The Catholic church only wrote #520. Since he was a instructor/teacher of music, maybe they would know of a school or institution with records I can obtain information.
      I apologize is this outside your knowledge of the area, just let me know and I will call the Younstown Ohio county clerks office, (sister city of Spisske Nova Ves), they probably have phone numbers and address since they are mutually tied together.

      Again, gratitude to all who assist. Sincerely, Jane

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      From: Michael Mojher <mailto:mgmojher%40verizon.net>
      To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      Dear Jane and Bob,
      The records Jane would be looking for are in the Levoca Archive. Their fonds for the Roman Catholic records go for 1601 to 1943 and the Greek Catholic for 1752 to 1950. There is also a State District Archive in Spisske Nova Ves.

      From: Jane Murray
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:26 AM
      To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      Bob,
      You are so kind. My "Szabo's", and I mean that so lovingly were said to be highly educated. My great-grandfather spoke 6 languages and they did very well in the USA. The great,great Grandfather I am looking for was Martin Szabo, he has his occupation listed as "Musicis" (Latin), my dream is to find out if he taught, and where he taught, what instruments did he play, did he compose? He has a great, great, great grandson that plays professional in an Orchestra, and a granddaughter that plays two instruments flawlessly. Our families love of music has had professional singers and entertainers and I myself sing (not just in the car!). I hope to find this information in the records of Podhradie. All of Martin's 7 children were born in Spisska Nova Ves; three brother immigrated in the 1880's to Johnstown PA. The other two surviving brothers I have not located yet, and two died in Spisska.
      I would welcome any pictures you would like to send of Spisska and Podhradie. I will give you my hotmail account name: mailto:spenser58%40hotmail.com , you can send them there, and I have other questions I would like to ask, but please correspond to the hotmail address, I honor the rules of this group and do not want to violate them.

      As for seeking information in Kosice, are the records kept there and not in Presov? I do not want to pull you away from any of your searching, but if you happen upon records of Martin Szabo, I would grateful. I would love to find family still in the area that I could correspond with and possible get family pictures.

      Thank you again for the information, and send me an email via hotmail. Most sincerely, Jane

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      From: Robert Pollak <mailto:rjp4053%40yahoo.com>
      To: "mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:50 AM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      There must have been a connection between Krasnohorske Podhradie and Spisska Nova Ves. My ggrandmother was born in Krasnohorske Podhradie and was married and raised her family in SPisska Nova Ves. I will be going to Slovakia in March and I stay at a penzion in Krasnohorske Podhradie. I will also be spending time in Kosice and Spisska Nova Ves.

      Have you looked in the films for Lipovnik, Drnava, Lucka, Borka and Kovacova? They are all small villages very near Krasnohorske Podhradie. My ggrandmother's family came from Kovacova to Krasnohorske Podhradie in the early 1800's and I still have family in Lipovnik which is just 5 km from Krasnohorske.

      I will be going to the archive in Kosice and can look up something for you if you like.

      Bob Pollak

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      From: Jane Murray <mailto:jmurray6475%40yahoo.com>
      To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:29 AM
      Subject: [S-R] Krásnohorské Podhradie, Slovakia, formerly Krasznahorka-Váralja, Gömör, Hungary

      Are these two towns related: Krásnohorské Podhradie Rožňava and Krasnohorske-Varalja? The LDS church records group them both together on LDS films. I ordered the films from the LDS center, could not find information on the family under the "freebies" offered by Family search for the village of Varallya which is the present day Podhradik. I was told to look into Podhradie. Another Szabo family that appeared at the same time as my great, great Grandfather in Spisska Nova Ves, listed Roznava as their hometown.
      Sorry for being so long winded, hope to get a reply. Thanks, Jane

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