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[S-R] Re: Help finding FHC film #/village name SLANSKE NOVE MESTO

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  • deeellessbee
    Thank you Barbara! Check your e-mail! Debbie
    Message 1 of 18 , Jan 14, 2010
      Thank you Barbara! Check your e-mail!

      Debbie

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "genmom4" <geismom@...> wrote:
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      >
      >
      > Dear Debbie,
      >
      > The Roman Catholic records can be found on the films for Ruskov, Slovakia, formerly Regete-Ruszka, Abauj-Torna, Hungary.
      > The number you want is 1924879
      > Be very careful when looking through this film as the entries can be out of sequence, there are many duplicates of the same page, and the years are not complete. Make certain you keep an eye on this as you go through the film.
      >
      > I have copies of the relatives in which you mentioned in my own files, as one of the lines married into my Takac family.
      > I also have the film on extended loan at my FHC.
      >
      > I have checked on this very same forum, and there is no census to be had at the FHC. That would certainly be a dream come true for me. If one has suddenly appeared, I'd be thrilled to know about it.
      >
      > Good luck.
      >
      > Barbara
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "deeellessbee" <deeellessbee@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Bill. Thanks for your input, but I'm not sure which direction you are pointing me in. Do you think I should get the film for Kalsa, and check that one, or do you think Ujvaros/SNM is not filmed yet so I shouldn't bother with Kalsa and should just wait?
      > >
      > > Since this type of searching is so time-consuming and I have limited time, I could check on other lines and wait for the Ujvaros films to be done. In Slovakia alone I have two other lines in Miklosvagas to research, and I'm a bit leery because I found that village on two different films, so that may take some time. Perhaps it's time to put Ujvaros on hold for a bit.
      > >
      > > If I do go forward, and check for other smaller villages, I suppose I would have to look for present-day villages and then try to find their names back in 1869, correct?
      > >
      > > Thanks!
      > > Debbie
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich" <bill.tarkulich@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > You should now step out of the box now and look for neighboring villages.
      > > > Can you find them? Is it a larger exclusion? if all the other villages
      > > > are there, perhaps it wasn't large enough to be counted separately.
      > > >
      > > > Egres Egres Zemplin 722689
      > > > Kalsa = no
      > > > Slanec
      > > > Zempliska Teplica
      > > >
      > > > I looked at a 1910 map http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/abauj-t.jpg
      > > > and do NOT see Ujvaros on the map. I DO see KALSA. I'd go for pulling
      > > > the KALSA census, being the closest.
      > > >
      > > > It actually shows on the Zemplen map, but is correctly placed in A-T
      > > > http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/zemplen.jpg shows the village, even
      > > > thou its in Abauj county.
      > > >
      > > > Now, I just looked at a cross reference, Ujvaros had a population in 1869
      > > > of 609 for , which means the census is recorded.
      > > >
      > > > I just did a quick check of the FHL catalog of all the villages in FUZERI
      > > > district of A-T and it's pretty meager. I do not believe A-T is complete.
      > > > In fact, the note on my page
      > > > http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/Census_1869_at_LDS.htm indicates the
      > > > filming is not complete for A-T county.
      > > >
      > > > Regards,
      > > >
      > > > On Wed, January 13, 2010 3:08 pm, deeellessbee wrote:
      > > > > Thanks Michael... yeah, that's pretty much the info I had on hand also. So
      > > > > do you think either one of those hyphenated Ujvaros's is my village? They
      > > > > don't seem to be in the right area but I'm not that familiar yet with the
      > > > > geography, and I can't find anything else with Ujvaros in it. I'm not
      > > > > sure if I should go ahead and get those films. It's just so
      > > > > time-consuming to go to the FHC and look through them all that I'm really
      > > > > trying to find the right one to begin with.
      > > > >
      > > > > Debbie
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Mojher" <mgmojher@>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > >>
      > > > >> Slanské Nové Mesto
      > > > >> county: Kosice-okolie
      > > > >>
      > > > >> OLD NAMES of the village(town): 1773 Uj-Város, 1786 Ujwárosch, 1808,
      > > > >> 1863-1902 Újváros, 1907-1913 Szaláncújváros, 1920-1948 Nové Mesto, 1948-
      > > > >> Slanské Nové Mesto
      > > > >>
      > > > >> In 1869 it was known as Ujvaros. Bill's website had a list of villages
      > > > >> for the 1869 Census. Couldn't find any name for Slanske Nove Mesto.
      > > > >>
      > > > >> From: deeellessbee
      > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:41 AM
      > > > >> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > >> Subject: [S-R] Help finding FHC film #/village name
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >> I've just spent several hours doing some research and one thing I'm
      > > > >> trying to find is the film number for the 1869 Hungarian Census for the
      > > > >> village of Ujvaros/Slanske Nove Mesto. I just cannot find it anywhere. I
      > > > >> believe the town is in the province of Kosice, which I also believe was
      > > > >> Abauj-Torna (sp?). I found two entries (on the entire site, not just
      > > > >> under Abauj-Torna; didn't find any there).
      > > > >>
      > > > >> One is in Gyor, and the town seems to be listed Gyor-Ujvaros. The other
      > > > >> is also in Gyor, and is listed as Ferencváros Ferdinándváros Nádorváros
      > > > >> Ujváros. Okay, well, there was a third entry with a hyphenated Ujvaros
      > > > >> name (first word began with an "S") but I didn't copy that down... wish
      > > > >> now I had so I don't have to look through all that again.
      > > > >>
      > > > >> So, could either of those two (three, I guess) longer-named towns be my
      > > > >> Ujvaros? Am I missing something in terms of name or in how I am
      > > > >> searching? I must be doing something right somewhere since I did find my
      > > > >> other town of Miklosvagas/Milkosovce (although even that town I found
      > > > >> twice with two different film numbers). I just can't find Ujvaros
      > > > >> here...
      > > > >>
      > > > >> Thank you,
      > > > >> Debbie
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > > > >>
      > > > >
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