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Re: [S-R] Fukans of Wien and Fünfkirchen, 19th century

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  • aravis1979
    Thanks, Janet! Hmmmm...they do often make it a challenge for us research-wise, don t they?! Lol. I may just sit tight for now and see what Lineages is able to
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      Thanks, Janet!

      Hmmmm...they do often make it a challenge for us research-wise, don't they?! Lol.

      I may just sit tight for now and see what Lineages is able to find for me (or not, as the case may be).

      Happy New Year, and thanks again for your help!

      Rebecca

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@...> wrote:
      >
      > Dear Rebecca,
      >
      >
      >
      > Some of the diacritical marks did not come through correctly. Here are the
      > names without the marks:
      >
      >
      >
      > Fuèkan + Fuckan
      >
      >
      >
      > ®ilina = Zilina
      >
      >
      >
      > You actually may have a problem searching in Pécs. LDS lists six Roman
      > Catholic parishes but only one Evangelical, and those records go back only
      > to 1869. You may find the family in the records for one of the RC churches
      > if there was no Evangelical church prior to 1869, but that's a lot of films
      > to look at.
      >
      >
      >
      > They don't always make it easy for us.
      >
      >
      >
      > Janet
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > _____
      >
      > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of aravis1979
      > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:21 PM
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] Fukans of Wien and Fünfkirchen, 19th century
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Dear Janet,
      >
      > Many thanks for your kind response to my query!
      >
      > My humble apologies, I must have implied that I had conducted a thorough
      > search of the Vienna archives for my Fukans. In fact, I only contacted the
      > Evangelical Kirche HB there and they have no records of anyone by this
      > surname ever being baptized there. A distant cousin told me he had turned up
      > nothing in his search for Fukan civil birth records in Vienna. I have
      > recently commissioned the people @ Lineages to search for Charles Fukan's
      > birth records in this city and hopefully they will be able to turn up
      > something.
      >
      > No, I've not yet searched the Pécs records as yet but I hope to do so ASAP.
      >
      > I appreciate hearing about these other Fukans you found via online
      > searching!
      >
      > Actually that person you mention with Charles and Bertha Russ Fukan listed
      > in her family tree @Ancestry is my cousin and I believe we have the same
      > amount of information at this point.
      >
      > I thank you again for your helpful and kind words and wish you all the best
      > in 2010!
      >
      > Rebecca
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Dear Rebecca,
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > You have a most interesting name to research.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > You say you have unsuccessfully searched the Vienna records (how did you
      > > manage that? LDS seems to list only records from the army), but you don't
      > > say whether you have looked at the records from Pécs (Fünfkirchen).
      > Theodore
      > > and John were both infants when they immigrated with their parents, Franz
      > > and Elizabeth, so it may be that they were unsure exactly where they were
      > > born. While most of the records indicate Vienna, John's WWI registration
      > > states he was born in "Five Churches, Bohemia, Austria" and Theodore's
      > WWII
      > > registration says he was born in "Fuenfkirchen, Austria-Hungary." (John's
      > > confusion is even moreso because that is not anywhere near Bohemia.)
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I agree that with such an unusual name, you would suspect that anyone with
      > > the name would be related, but of course you have to prove it.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Among the interesting results from a Google search is the fact that a
      > Marija
      > > Fukan was burned as a witch in Zagrebacka zupanija, Croatia, in 1751. I
      > > looked at the Croatian white pages, but no Fukans were listed there-only
      > > Fuèkan, which would be pronounced FOOCh-kahn and doesn't seem right.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > (While Google lists a lot of hits for Fukan, almost all of them are
      > > Japanese. Specifying Austria (or other modifier) helps cut that down.)
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Neither Hungary nor Austria lists anyone by that name in their phone
      > > directories. However, Slovakia has two (Karol and L'ubomir) in ®ilina and
      > > Czech Republic lists seven.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Are you the Ancestry Member slb349, who listed Charles Fukan in the
      > Grieser
      > > Family Tree, married to Bertha? If not, you might try contacting that
      > member
      > > to try to find more information.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Best of luck to you in 2010, Janet
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@
      > <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
      > > Behalf Of aravis1979
      > > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:21 AM
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: [S-R] Fukans of Wien and Fünfkirchen, 19th century
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Hello, I'm Rebecca and I am new to the group. I am writing my family
      > history
      > > especially for my elderly father and have been having real trouble
      > breaking
      > > down the brick wall that is his maternal grandfather's line. Charles A.
      > > Fukan was born in August 1861 in Wien to Joseph Fukan and his wife (name
      > > unknown). In Sept 1888 he emigrated to Scranton, PA, where 4 years later
      > his
      > > brother Franz (born in 1859, Wien) and his family also migrated. On the
      > > latter family's passenger manifest, Fünfkirchen is listed as their former
      > > place of residence. It is also named as place of birth on the 1918 World
      > War
      > > I draft registration of Franz' son John William Fukan and the 1942 World
      > War
      > > II draft registration of John's brother Theodore Fukan, while Wien is
      > listed
      > > as birth place on both John and Theodore's naturalization papers.
      > Meanwhile,
      > > all I know about my great granddad Charles is that he lived in Sarajevo as
      > > well as Wien. I was told by a professional genealogist that Fukan is not
      > an
      > > Austrian surname, and I have been unable to locate any birth records for
      > > Charles or Franz in the Wien archives so far. I have, however, seen an
      > > online family tree @... naming many Fukans of the 17th through
      > 19th
      > > century in southern Moravia; I contacted the person behind this tree but
      > > never received a response. This name seems so uncommon that I suspect
      > > Charles and Franz must surely be kin somehow, but would love to find any
      > > evidence to prove or disprove this.
      > >
      > > Any help or suggestions anyone may possible be able to offer here would be
      > > very gratefully received.
      > >
      > > A blessed and happy 2010 to all, and many thanks,
      > >
      > > Rebecca Olenchak
      > >
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