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  • Michele Baker
    Not so far. I will contact you off-line if I find anything more. _____ From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
    Message 1 of 12 , May 2, 2009
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      Not so far. I will contact you off-line if I find anything more.



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      From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of gjederman
      Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:04 PM
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary Matko








      That idea has been a two edged sword in my search because I was often told
      that Mehal was the anglicized version of Mihal and Michal which were/are
      very common. Like "Jones" I guess. My ggm Mary died in 1949 in Brockway, PA.
      Does that connect in any way? G

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com, "Michele Baker" <mbaker4@...> wrote:
      >
      > This is getting more interesting . Your latest message has another name
      > that's of interest to me. George Sopchak's (my Mary Matcko's spouse)
      > mother's name was Michal, or at least that is the spelling our family
      shows.
      > Have more information on George provided by a local researcher based in
      > Kosice before my visit to the area in 2005. I will see what I can locate.
      > I am curious to see what spellings there are for "Michal."
      >
      >
      >
      > Michele
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ggfs name Mehal (Mihal, Mehalik, Mehalko, Mahal...)
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@
      <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of gjederman
      > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:31 PM
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary Matko
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Thanks for sharing the info. I'm going back through my notes to see if
      there
      > are any dots to connect. A few years ago, when I was focusing on my ggfs
      > name Mehal (Mihal, Mehalik, Mehalko, Mahal...) I received some information
      > stating that he may have been from Hazlin, in NE Slovakia. I'll check a
      map
      > to see where that is in relation to Bardejou. G
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com, "Michele Baker" <mbaker4@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi v/r G,
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > My ggm's name was Mary Matcko. There is nothing to indicate she is
      related
      > > to your ggm, at least not in the U.S. I have yet to track her relatives
      in
      > > the states or her village but here's some information that may proof
      > helpful
      > > in your search.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > What I know .
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > -- b. 1865; birth locations shown as Austria and Poland,
      > >
      > > -- married George Sopchak/Sopcak, m. date and location unk,
      > >
      > > -- George's baptismal certificate shows b. 1865, Jastrabie nad Tonplou,
      > > Slovakia (near Hlinne),
      > >
      > > -- found no arrival record for Mary or her spouse,
      > >
      > > -- family was supposed to have made return trip to homeland when first
      > child
      > > (my gr-m) was young child; have found no record of this trip,
      > >
      > > -- my gr-m said her younger brother died at sea during this trip,
      > >
      > > -- first child stated b.1890; have not found birth certificate, told she
      > was
      > > born in NY, but . ???
      > >
      > > -- second child b. 1898, Bayonne, NJ
      > >
      > > -- came route -- New Jersey, Wisconsin, Washington State
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Found various spellings for Mary's last name.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > -- Masko, Matko, Mathsco, Maczko, (this may be the Slovak spelling;
      found
      > > this spelling common in Bardejov, Slovakia),
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > -- found a posting by researcher with family name of Matsko with
      ancestral
      > > villages around Bardejov area (have had no luck in contacting this
      > indivual)
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Good luck
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      > yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@
      > <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
      > > Behalf Of gjederman
      > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 5:00 PM
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary Matko
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Hi, this is my first post, I'm new to the group. I joined to see if I
      can
      > > learn more about my family and their Slovak culture. I'm focusing on my
      > ggm,
      > > Mary Matko, 1863-1949. She married John Mehal o/a 1881 and they
      immigrated
      > > to the States o/a 1890 (but it could have been earlier depending on
      which
      > > census we're looking at) with one daughter Annie, 1888-1987. They
      settled
      > in
      > > Snyder Township, Jefferson Co, PA. They were Catholic.
      > >
      > > What I don't know:
      > > -What village she came from. Presumably her husband came from the same
      or
      > a
      > > nearby village.
      > > -Was her maiden name actually spelled "Matko"
      > >
      > > What I'm almost certain of:
      > > - Her husband's last name "Mehal" was anglicized o/a the time of
      > > immigration. The 1910 census uses the Mehal spelling.
      > >
      > > The reason I'm focusing on Mary Matko is because there seem to be fewer
      > > variations of the Matko name spelling. But the pre-immigration spelling
      > > possibilities for Mehal are numerous.
      > >
      > > If anyone has any recommendations, similar experiences, or a Matko or
      > Mehal
      > > somewhere in their tree it would be great to hear from you. Thanks much.
      > v/r
      > > G
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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    • Bill Tarkulich
      Traditionally Maria was the most common baptismal variant in the region. ... From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      Message 2 of 12 , May 2, 2009
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        Traditionally "Maria" was the most common baptismal variant in the region.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf Of gjederman
        Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:53 PM
        To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary MATKO MEHAL

        Bill, Initially I searched the manifests (they're hard on the eyeballs!) for
        "Mehal" or anything similar, during the year the census says the arrived.
        Then I started searching for a Mehal with a wife and one child. It will
        have to be and ongoing effort because the only thing close (man, wife,
        child) was written in hand writing that I couldn't make out the woman's name
        - Mary. BTW do you know if Mary is Maria in Slovak? We have no info yet on
        any return trips to Slovakia. I'm looking into the "border" possibility.

        Was Slovakia predominately Catholic? Thanks. G

        --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich" <bill.tarkulich@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Welcome to the group "G",
        >
        > MATKO - We need to get the village of origin. Let's consider sources.
        > First reaction is to check the Slovakia Phonebook. What I find however is
        > that surname dispersed throughout the country.
        > Second thought is to look at ellisisland.org. Hmm. Problem with
        manifests
        > before 1890 is that they are not very detailed. Nothing comes up with
        that.
        > Next thought is immigration records. Were they ever naturalized?
        > Next, other travel records. Did they ever return?
        > Looking at children's birth records for village of parents. Won't be
        found
        > on a "certificate" but is often found in the church books. Were all
        > children born in the states?
        >
        > Another possibility is to look in the Slovakia phone books for MEHAL and
        > MATKO, and try to locate both names in one geographic area. Did MEHAL
        > family ever travel back to Europe? Did other family or villagers ever
        come
        > to visit them or move to the states? Often families had boarders (US
        > Census) and these are often people they knew before. Tracing them often
        > finds clues.
        >
        > Here are even more ideas where to look for the village name:
        > http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/ancestral_village.htm
        >
        > What other research sources have you exhausted already?
        >
        > All my resource links mentioned above here here
        > http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/toolbox.htm
        > Other pages explain how to use them as can most of the members here.
        >
        > Regards and Good Luck,
        >
        >
        > Bill Tarkulich
        >
        > p.s., with Ellis, be certain to try name variations.
        >
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com]
        On
        > Behalf Of gjederman
        > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:00 PM
        > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary Matko
        >
        > Hi, this is my first post, I'm new to the group. I joined to see if I can
        > learn more about my family and their Slovak culture. I'm focusing on my
        > ggm, Mary Matko, 1863-1949. She married John Mehal o/a 1881 and they
        > immigrated to the States o/a 1890 (but it could have been earlier
        depending
        > on which census we're looking at) with one daughter Annie, 1888-1987.
        They
        > settled in Snyder Township, Jefferson Co, PA. They were Catholic.
        >
        > What I don't know:
        > -What village she came from. Presumably her husband came from the same or
        a
        > nearby village.
        > -Was her maiden name actually spelled "Matko"
        >
        > What I'm almost certain of:
        > - Her husband's last name "Mehal" was anglicized o/a the time of
        > immigration. The 1910 census uses the Mehal spelling.
        >
        > The reason I'm focusing on Mary Matko is because there seem to be fewer
        > variations of the Matko name spelling. But the pre-immigration spelling
        > possibilities for Mehal are numerous.
        >
        > If anyone has any recommendations, similar experiences, or a Matko or
        Mehal
        > somewhere in their tree it would be great to hear from you. Thanks much.
        > v/r G
        >
        >
        >
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      • n8de@thepoint.net
        How about the Slovak spelling for the English pronunciation? MIHAL Don Havlicek Edmore, MI
        Message 3 of 12 , May 2, 2009
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          How about the Slovak spelling for the English pronunciation?
          MIHAL

          Don Havlicek
          Edmore, MI

          Quoting gjederman <jederman54@...>:

          > Bill, Initially I searched the manifests (they're hard on the
          > eyeballs!) for "Mehal" or anything similar, during the year the
          > census says the arrived. Then I started searching for a Mehal with a
          > wife and one child. It will have to be and ongoing effort because
          > the only thing close (man, wife, child) was written in hand writing
          > that I couldn't make out the woman's name - Mary. BTW do you know
          > if Mary is Maria in Slovak? We have no info yet on any return trips
          > to Slovakia. I'm looking into the "border" possibility.
          >
          > Was Slovakia predominately Catholic? Thanks. G
          >
          > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich"
          > <bill.tarkulich@...> wrote:
          >>
          >> Welcome to the group "G",
          >>
          >> MATKO - We need to get the village of origin. Let's consider sources.
          >> First reaction is to check the Slovakia Phonebook. What I find however is
          >> that surname dispersed throughout the country.
          >> Second thought is to look at ellisisland.org. Hmm. Problem with manifests
          >> before 1890 is that they are not very detailed. Nothing comes up with that.
          >> Next thought is immigration records. Were they ever naturalized?
          >> Next, other travel records. Did they ever return?
          >> Looking at children's birth records for village of parents. Won't be found
          >> on a "certificate" but is often found in the church books. Were all
          >> children born in the states?
          >>
          >> Another possibility is to look in the Slovakia phone books for MEHAL and
          >> MATKO, and try to locate both names in one geographic area. Did MEHAL
          >> family ever travel back to Europe? Did other family or villagers ever come
          >> to visit them or move to the states? Often families had boarders (US
          >> Census) and these are often people they knew before. Tracing them often
          >> finds clues.
          >>
          >> Here are even more ideas where to look for the village name:
          >> http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/ancestral_village.htm
          >>
          >> What other research sources have you exhausted already?
          >>
          >> All my resource links mentioned above here here
          >> http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/toolbox.htm
          >> Other pages explain how to use them as can most of the members here.
          >>
          >> Regards and Good Luck,
          >>
          >>
          >> Bill Tarkulich
          >>
          >> p.s., with Ellis, be certain to try name variations.
          >>
          >>
          >> -----Original Message-----
          >> From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
          >> Behalf Of gjederman
          >> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:00 PM
          >> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
          >> Subject: [S-R] Searching for information on my ggm Mary Matko
          >>
          >> Hi, this is my first post, I'm new to the group. I joined to see if I can
          >> learn more about my family and their Slovak culture. I'm focusing on my
          >> ggm, Mary Matko, 1863-1949. She married John Mehal o/a 1881 and they
          >> immigrated to the States o/a 1890 (but it could have been earlier depending
          >> on which census we're looking at) with one daughter Annie, 1888-1987. They
          >> settled in Snyder Township, Jefferson Co, PA. They were Catholic.
          >>
          >> What I don't know:
          >> -What village she came from. Presumably her husband came from the same or a
          >> nearby village.
          >> -Was her maiden name actually spelled "Matko"
          >>
          >> What I'm almost certain of:
          >> - Her husband's last name "Mehal" was anglicized o/a the time of
          >> immigration. The 1910 census uses the Mehal spelling.
          >>
          >> The reason I'm focusing on Mary Matko is because there seem to be fewer
          >> variations of the Matko name spelling. But the pre-immigration spelling
          >> possibilities for Mehal are numerous.
          >>
          >> If anyone has any recommendations, similar experiences, or a Matko or Mehal
          >> somewhere in their tree it would be great to hear from you. Thanks much.
          >> v/r G
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >> ------------------------------------
          >>
          >> To visit your group on the web, go to:
          >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/
          >>
          >> To unsubscribe from this group, go to
          >> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS -or- send blank email to
          >> SLOVAK-ROOTS-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links
          >>
          >
          >
          >
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