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  • aunttootie
    Hello from Ohio. I ve been trying to trace my paternal ancestors for a few years and haven t been able to get past my grandparents. I ve found my
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 1, 2009
      Hello from Ohio. I've been trying to trace my paternal ancestors for
      a few years and haven't been able to get past my grandparents. I've
      found my grandfather, Vasil Beskit, listed as Charlie, Vasily, Lazlo
      (I think) and last names from Biskit to Bazkett. Anyway, here's what
      I've got:

      Vasil Charles Beskit, b. 29 Dec 1875 in Lywa Lipa (?), Austria
      Father - Wasil Beskit
      Mother - Theresa Marakovich

      Vasil was married in Europe but wife and child both died. He
      emigrated around 1899, and I think he settled in McKees Rocks PA for
      a time.

      On 6 May 1905 in St. John's church, McKees Rocks, he married Mary
      Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary). They had Alex,
      Katherina, Peter, William, Anna, Mary, Samuel, George, Julia, a
      stillborn son, and Olga. Alex, Pete and Bill used the surname
      Beckett and Alex went by "Bob". The family lived in Akron OH and
      Randolph OH before moving to Newton Falls OH. Vasil died 23 Oct 1947
      in Warren OH. Mary died 5 Apr 1975 in Youngstown OH. Her parents
      were George Koroly and Anna Jacig.

      One story we received from a late aunt reads:

      "The name Beskit is from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The
      Beskit family is Slovak. Two of Wasils' and Theresa's granddaughters,
      Julie Beskit Archer (of Canfield) and Mary Beskit (of Akron) shared
      the following memories that their father, Demitri Beskit, passed down
      to them: Wasil Beskit had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid
      Mountains. He was a livestock broker who raised and sold oxen, cows,
      sheep and horses. He did not raise hogs. When people needed animals
      for their farm they would purchase them from him. When a couple
      married, they would need a team of oxen to plow their garden.
      Livestock delivery was done on foot. His sons helped him deliver the
      animals. They also took the animals to market in big cities. They
      walked with the animals, or perhaps rode a wagon. Along the way
      friendly people would put them up for the night and feed them. This
      type of hospitality was commonly practiced at this time. The next day
      they would continue on their journey. Wasil and Theresa had at least
      ten children. Two sons immigrated to the United States of America:
      Wasil and Demitri."

      The Demitri she references also used the names Daniel and Metro.

      Anyway, I have several questions but will start with - is/was there a
      village named Lwya Lipa? And given the information I have, is my
      heritage Slovak as she states, Rusyn, Hungarian - or what? I think
      the more I find, the more confused I get.

      Thanks so much for any help you can offer!

      Terri
    • helene cincebeaux
      Hi Terri -   From the first names you can pretty well guess they were Rusyn.   Where did the Lywa Lipa info come from? Usually no w s in Slovak language -
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 1, 2009
        Hi Terri -
         
        From the first names you can pretty well guess they were Rusyn.
         
        Where did the Lywa Lipa info come from? Usually no w's in Slovak language - but do find in Polish
         
        Do you have any documents or letters from the old country with a place name? Did you find any ancestors on Ellis Island ship records - sometimes show a village of origin.
         
        I found your Marakovich surname in our data base - listed as being from a village in old Sub-carpatho Rus (part of Czecho-Slovakia then Russia, now Ukraine. But it may not be that rare of a surname.
         
        Also have one listing for a Beskid surname.
         
        Wonder if your Turok Remete could be Blatne Remeti in old Uz county in far eastern Slovakia
         
        Jacig doesn't sound particularly Slovak - thinking areas adjacent
         
        The Beskid Mts extend from Moravia to the far eastern tip of Slovakia all along the southern Polish border. They have various names like the Moravian- Silesian Beskydy, then in Slovakia the Kysuce Beskydy, the Oravske Beskydy, then in Poland the Beskid Makowski, Beskid Sadecki and Beskid Niski (Lower) not sure how far they extend into northern Slovakia (look north of  Bardejov as well as the Bieszczad mts. at that magical corner where Poland, Slovakia and Ukraine come together - have always wanted to go there but likely it is atop a mountain and not accesible. I wondered why there were Beskydy mts in Moravian/Poland and in Slovakia/Poland too and was tonight was really amazed to see all the ranges named with variations of Beskid that ripple across these borders.
         
        - there was a lot of movement across the borders long ago as it was all part of the Austrian Empire. With the Rusyn first names sounds like they were in the area above Baredjov or further east in what was old Galicia.
         
        Good Luck!
         
        helene
         
         

        --- On Thu, 1/1/09, aunttootie <aunttootie@...> wrote:

        From: aunttootie <aunttootie@...>
        Subject: [S-R] Another newbie
        To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 10:52 PM






        Hello from Ohio. I've been trying to trace my paternal ancestors for
        a few years and haven't been able to get past my grandparents. I've
        found my grandfather, Vasil Beskit, listed as Charlie, Vasily, Lazlo
        (I think) and last names from Biskit to Bazkett. Anyway, here's what
        I've got:

        Vasil Charles Beskit, b. 29 Dec 1875 in Lywa Lipa (?), Austria
        Father - Wasil Beskit
        Mother - Theresa Marakovich

        Vasil was married in Europe but wife and child both died. He
        emigrated around 1899, and I think he settled in McKees Rocks PA for
        a time.

        On 6 May 1905 in St. John's church, McKees Rocks, he married Mary
        Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary). They had Alex,
        Katherina, Peter, William, Anna, Mary, Samuel, George, Julia, a
        stillborn son, and Olga. Alex, Pete and Bill used the surname
        Beckett and Alex went by "Bob". The family lived in Akron OH and
        Randolph OH before moving to Newton Falls OH. Vasil died 23 Oct 1947
        in Warren OH. Mary died 5 Apr 1975 in Youngstown OH. Her parents
        were George Koroly and Anna Jacig.

        One story we received from a late aunt reads:

        "The name Beskit is from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The
        Beskit family is Slovak. Two of Wasils' and Theresa's granddaughters,
        Julie Beskit Archer (of Canfield) and Mary Beskit (of Akron) shared
        the following memories that their father, Demitri Beskit, passed down
        to them: Wasil Beskit had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid
        Mountains. He was a livestock broker who raised and sold oxen, cows,
        sheep and horses. He did not raise hogs. When people needed animals
        for their farm they would purchase them from him. When a couple
        married, they would need a team of oxen to plow their garden.
        Livestock delivery was done on foot. His sons helped him deliver the
        animals. They also took the animals to market in big cities. They
        walked with the animals, or perhaps rode a wagon. Along the way
        friendly people would put them up for the night and feed them. This
        type of hospitality was commonly practiced at this time. The next day
        they would continue on their journey. Wasil and Theresa had at least
        ten children. Two sons immigrated to the United States of America:
        Wasil and Demitri."

        The Demitri she references also used the names Daniel and Metro.

        Anyway, I have several questions but will start with - is/was there a
        village named Lwya Lipa? And given the information I have, is my
        heritage Slovak as she states, Rusyn, Hungarian - or what? I think
        the more I find, the more confused I get.

        Thanks so much for any help you can offer!

        Terri


















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      • aunttootie@aol.com
        Helene - Thanks for the information!? I have no paperwork, just what?I ve been able to find online and/or through the historical society in Trumbull County.?
        Message 3 of 9 , Jan 2, 2009
          Helene -


          Thanks for the information!? I have no paperwork, just what?I've been able to find online and/or through the historical society in Trumbull County.? My older sister has a little information from our aunts - I had no contact with that side of the family as I'm many years younger than she and our father (William) died when I was quite small.? I do know that my grandmother (Mary) was Orthodox.? I have a vague memory of her, my grandfather died before I was born.?


          ?


          I've found immigration information?for Mary Koroly and her sister Anna, which is where the Tyuri Remety information came from.? ?I'm not sure where my sister got the Lwya Lipa - possibly from the aunts.? I haven't been able to find anything at all in eastern Europe with that name, and very limited information on my grandfather (mostly census).


          ?


          Terri







          -----Original Message-----

          From: helene cincebeaux <helenezx@...>

          To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com

          Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 1:11 am

          Subject: Re: [S-R] Another newbie





          Hi Terri - ? From the first names you can pretty well guess they were Rusyn. ? Where did the Lywa Lipa info come from? Usually no w's in Slovak language - but do find in Polish ? Do you have any documents or letters from the old country with a place name? Did you find any ancestors on Ellis Island ship records - sometimes show a village of origin. ? I found your Marakovich surname in our data base - listed as being from a village in old Sub-carpatho Rus (part of Czecho-Slovakia then Russia, now Ukraine. But it may not be that rare of a surname. ? Also have one listing for a Beskid surname. ? Wonder if your Turok Remete could be Blatne Remeti in old Uz county in far eastern Slovakia ? Jacig doesn't sound particularly Slovak - thinking areas adjacent ? The Beskid Mts?extend from Moravia to the far eastern tip of Slovakia?all along?the southern Polish border. They have various names like the Moravian- Silesian Beskydy, then in Slovakia the Kysuce Beskydy, the Oravske Beskydy, then in Poland?the Beskid Makowski, Beskid Sadecki and Beskid Niski (Lower) not sure how far they extend into northern Slovakia (look north of? Bardejov?as well as the?Bieszczad mts. at that magical corner where Poland, Slovakia and Ukraine come together - have always wanted to go there but likely it is atop a mountain and not accesible. I wondered why there were Beskydy mts in Moravian/Poland and in Slovakia/Poland too and was tonight was really amazed to see all the ranges named with variations of Beskid that ripple across these borders. ? - there was a lot of movement across the borders long ago as it was all part of the Austrian Empire. With the Rusyn first names sounds like they were in the area above Baredjov or further east in what was old Galicia. ? Good Luck! ? helene ? ? --- On Thu, 1/1/09, aunttootie <aunttootie@...> wrote: From: aunttootie <aunttootie@...> Subject: [S-R] Another newbie To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January

          1, 2009, 10:52 PM Hello from Ohio. I've been trying to trace my paternal ancestors for a few years and haven't been able to get past my grandparents. I've found my grandfather, Vasil Beskit, listed as Charlie, Vasily, Lazlo (I think) and last names from Biskit to Bazkett. Anyway, here's what I've got: Vasil Charles Beskit, b. 29 Dec 1875 in Lywa Lipa (?), Austria Father - Wasil Beskit Mother - Theresa Marakovich Vasil was married in Europe but wife and child both died. He emigrated around 1899, and I think he settled in McKees Rocks PA for a time. On 6 May 1905 in St. John's church, McKees Rocks, he married Mary Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary). They had Alex, Katherina, Peter, William, Anna, Mary, Samuel, George, Julia, a stillborn son, and Olga. Alex, Pete and Bill used the surname Beckett and Alex went by "Bob". The family lived in Akron OH and Randolph OH before moving to Newton Falls OH. Vasil died 23 Oct 1947 in Warren OH. Mary died 5 Apr 1975 in Youngstown OH. Her parents were George Koroly and Anna Jacig. One story we received from a late aunt reads: "The name Beskit is from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The Beskit family is Slovak. Two of Wasils' and Theresa's granddaughters, Julie Beskit Archer (of Canfield) and Mary Beskit (of Akron) shared the following memories that their father, Demitri Beskit, passed down to them: Wasil Beskit had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid Mountains. He was a livestock broker who raised and sold oxen, cows, sheep and horses. He did not raise hogs. When people needed animals for their farm they would purchase them from him. When a couple married, they would need a team of oxen to plow their garden. Livestock delivery was done on foot. His sons helped him deliver the animals. They also took the animals to market in big cities. They walked with the animals, or perhaps rode a wagon. Along the way friendly people would put them up for the night and feed them. This t

          ype of hospitality was commonly practiced at this time. The next day they would continue on their journey. Wasil and Theresa had at least ten children. Two sons immigrated to the United States of America: Wasil and Demitri." The Demitri she references also used the names Daniel and Metro. Anyway, I have several questions but will start with - is/was there a village named Lwya Lipa? And given the information I have, is my heritage Slovak as she states, Rusyn, Hungarian - or what? I think the more I find, the more confused I get. Thanks so much for any help you can offer! Terri [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/ To unsubscribe from this group, go to http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS -or- send blank email to SLOVAK-ROOTS-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SLOVAK-ROOTS-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



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        • johnqadam
          ... Turye Remeti Hungary: Turja-Remete, Ung Megye, today Turi Remety, Ukraine. 19 miles NNW of Mukacheve (Munkacs), 15 miles ENE of Uzhhorod (Ungvar). 48°43
          Message 4 of 9 , Jan 2, 2009
            >>> Vasil Charles Beskit, b. 29 Dec 1875 in Lywa Lipa (?), Austria
            >>> he married Mary > Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary).
            >>> is/was there a village named Lwya Lipa? <<<

            We have a partial answer:
            >>> he married Mary Koroly . . . in Turye Remeti Hungary<<<
            Turye Remeti Hungary: Turja-Remete, Ung Megye, today Turi Remety,
            Ukraine. 19 miles NNW of Mukacheve (Munkacs), 15 miles ENE of Uzhhorod
            (Ungvar). 48°43' N, 22°36' E

            If there are cousins on the Slovak side of the border, they would be in
            area code 056, around Sobrance, where Korolova does appear in current
            phone listings. It would be a difficult hike across the mountains to
            Turi Remety, Ukraine.
          • johnqadam
            ... See it on the 1910 map at http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ung.jpg Look on the right side in the rusty-pink area, two villages southeast east of
            Message 5 of 9 , Jan 2, 2009
              >>> he married Mary Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary). <<<

              See it on the 1910 map at http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ung.jpg

              Look on the right side in the rusty-pink area, two villages southeast
              east of Perecseny.
            • helene cincebeaux
              Hi Terri -   One of our Slovak Heritage Society members just sent me new info on his roots in Galicia/Poland and he poipointed the village names - i asked if
              Message 6 of 9 , Jan 2, 2009
                Hi Terri -
                 
                One of our Slovak Heritage Society members just sent me new info on his roots in Galicia/Poland and he poipointed the village names - i asked if he would share his tips with us - might help you! Pretty sure you are from that region.
                 
                There are many Rusyns there and some Orthodox - a very complicated story. In the tiny village of Jedlinka near the Polish border there are two churches - a historic wooden Rusyn church and a new Orthodox church - after the war the Rusyns were persecuted as the Russians wanted them to convert to Orthodox. In Jedlinka the Rusyn congregation split with 12 families going to the new small Orthodox church and 12 staying with the ancient church, a historic national treasure.
                 
                have you tried this site
                www.shtetlseekier.com - sometimes helps with this difficult id questions.
                 
                helene

                --- On Fri, 1/2/09, aunttootie@... <aunttootie@...> wrote:

                From: aunttootie@... <aunttootie@...>
                Subject: Re: [S-R] Another newbie
                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:32 AM






                Helene -

                Thanks for the information! ? I have no paperwork, just what?I've been able to find online and/or through the historical society in Trumbull County.? My older sister has a little information from our aunts - I had no contact with that side of the family as I'm many years younger than she and our father (William) died when I was quite small.? I do know that my grandmother (Mary) was Orthodox.? I have a vague memory of her, my grandfather died before I was born.?

                ?

                I've found immigration information? for Mary Koroly and her sister Anna, which is where the Tyuri Remety information came from.? ?I'm not sure where my sister got the Lwya Lipa - possibly from the aunts.? I haven't been able to find anything at all in eastern Europe with that name, and very limited information on my grandfather (mostly census).

                ?

                Terri

                -----Original Message-----

                From: helene cincebeaux <helenezx@yahoo. com>

                To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ yahoogroups. com

                Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 1:11 am

                Subject: Re: [S-R] Another newbie

                Hi Terri - ? From the first names you can pretty well guess they were Rusyn. ? Where did the Lywa Lipa info come from? Usually no w's in Slovak language - but do find in Polish ? Do you have any documents or letters from the old country with a place name? Did you find any ancestors on Ellis Island ship records - sometimes show a village of origin. ? I found your Marakovich surname in our data base - listed as being from a village in old Sub-carpatho Rus (part of Czecho-Slovakia then Russia, now Ukraine. But it may not be that rare of a surname. ? Also have one listing for a Beskid surname. ? Wonder if your Turok Remete could be Blatne Remeti in old Uz county in far eastern Slovakia ? Jacig doesn't sound particularly Slovak - thinking areas adjacent ? The Beskid Mts?extend from Moravia to the far eastern tip of Slovakia?all along?the southern Polish border. They have various names like the Moravian- Silesian Beskydy, then in Slovakia the Kysuce Beskydy,
                the Oravske Beskydy, then in Poland?the Beskid Makowski, Beskid Sadecki and Beskid Niski (Lower) not sure how far they extend into northern Slovakia (look north of? Bardejov?as well as the?Bieszczad mts. at that magical corner where Poland, Slovakia and Ukraine come together - have always wanted to go there but likely it is atop a mountain and not accesible. I wondered why there were Beskydy mts in Moravian/Poland and in Slovakia/Poland too and was tonight was really amazed to see all the ranges named with variations of Beskid that ripple across these borders. ? - there was a lot of movement across the borders long ago as it was all part of the Austrian Empire. With the Rusyn first names sounds like they were in the area above Baredjov or further east in what was old Galicia. ? Good Luck! ? helene ? ? --- On Thu, 1/1/09, aunttootie <aunttootie@aol. com> wrote: From: aunttootie <aunttootie@aol. com> Subject: [S-R] Another newbie To:
                SLOVAK-ROOTS@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, January

                1, 2009, 10:52 PM Hello from Ohio. I've been trying to trace my paternal ancestors for a few years and haven't been able to get past my grandparents. I've found my grandfather, Vasil Beskit, listed as Charlie, Vasily, Lazlo (I think) and last names from Biskit to Bazkett. Anyway, here's what I've got: Vasil Charles Beskit, b. 29 Dec 1875 in Lywa Lipa (?), Austria Father - Wasil Beskit Mother - Theresa Marakovich Vasil was married in Europe but wife and child both died. He emigrated around 1899, and I think he settled in McKees Rocks PA for a time. On 6 May 1905 in St. John's church, McKees Rocks, he married Mary Koroly (b. 16 Feb 1886 in Turye Remeti Hungary). They had Alex, Katherina, Peter, William, Anna, Mary, Samuel, George, Julia, a stillborn son, and Olga. Alex, Pete and Bill used the surname Beckett and Alex went by "Bob". The family lived in Akron OH and Randolph OH before moving to Newton Falls OH. Vasil died 23 Oct 1947 in Warren OH. Mary died
                5 Apr 1975 in Youngstown OH. Her parents were George Koroly and Anna Jacig. One story we received from a late aunt reads: "The name Beskit is from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The Beskit family is Slovak. Two of Wasils' and Theresa's granddaughters, Julie Beskit Archer (of Canfield) and Mary Beskit (of Akron) shared the following memories that their father, Demitri Beskit, passed down to them: Wasil Beskit had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid Mountains. He was a livestock broker who raised and sold oxen, cows, sheep and horses. He did not raise hogs. When people needed animals for their farm they would purchase them from him. When a couple married, they would need a team of oxen to plow their garden. Livestock delivery was done on foot. His sons helped him deliver the animals. They also took the animals to market in big cities. They walked with the animals, or perhaps rode a wagon. Along the way friendly people would put them up for the
                night and feed them. This t

                ype of hospitality was commonly practiced at this time. The next day they would continue on their journey. Wasil and Theresa had at least ten children. Two sons immigrated to the United States of America: Wasil and Demitri." The Demitri she references also used the names Daniel and Metro. Anyway, I have several questions but will start with - is/was there a village named Lwya Lipa? And given the information I have, is my heritage Slovak as she states, Rusyn, Hungarian - or what? I think the more I find, the more confused I get. Thanks so much for any help you can offer! Terri [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/SLOVAK- ROOTS/ To unsubscribe from this group, go to http://www.yahoogro ups.com/group/ SLOVAK-ROOTS -or- send blank email to SLOVAK-ROOTS- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. comYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group
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              • johnqadam
                We have established one village name. Now, let s follow then clues and see if we can figure out the other. ... is Slovak. ... 1) Is it Lywa or Lwya? Could be
                Message 7 of 9 , Jan 2, 2009
                  We have established one village name. Now, let's follow then clues
                  and see if we can figure out the other.

                  >>> Lywa Lipa (?),
                  >>> from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The Beskit family
                  is Slovak.
                  >>> had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid Mountains.
                  >>> is/was there a village named Lwya Lipa?

                  1) Is it Lywa or Lwya? Could be Lwow.
                  2) Can we see any source document for the village name?
                  3) It could be near the previously identified Ukrainian village,
                  keeping in mind that the 2nd marriage was in USA.
                  4) Someone familiar with village names in Galicia probably has
                  the answer. My guess is Lipa, west of Bircza, Poland. 49°43' N 22°23'
                  E

                  CURRENT MAP
                  To locate places in Europe, especially if you are not sure of the
                  proper spelling of the place name, the best reference is found at
                  http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

                  ShtetlSeeker will take you there via Mapquest, Multimap or Google.
                • vchromoho
                  ... family ... village, ... 23 ... Pavlo Chuchka s _Prizvyshcha zakarpats kykh ukrayintsiv_ (Surnames of Transcarpathian Ukrainians) shows the surname Beskyd
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jan 3, 2009
                    --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "johnqadam" <johnqadam@...>
                    wrote:
                    >
                    > We have established one village name. Now, let's follow then clues
                    > and see if we can figure out the other.
                    >
                    > >>> Lywa Lipa (?),
                    > >>> from the Beskid Mountains in Austria-Hungary. The Beskit
                    family
                    > is Slovak.
                    > >>> had a farm in the foothills of the Beskid Mountains.
                    > >>> is/was there a village named Lwya Lipa?
                    >
                    > 1) Is it Lywa or Lwya? Could be Lwow.
                    > 2) Can we see any source document for the village name?
                    > 3) It could be near the previously identified Ukrainian
                    village,
                    > keeping in mind that the 2nd marriage was in USA.
                    > 4) Someone familiar with village names in Galicia probably has
                    > the answer. My guess is Lipa, west of Bircza, Poland. 49°43' N 22°
                    23'
                    > E
                    >
                    > CURRENT MAP
                    > To locate places in Europe, especially if you are not sure of the
                    > proper spelling of the place name, the best reference is found at
                    > http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
                    >
                    > ShtetlSeeker will take you there via Mapquest, Multimap or Google.

                    Pavlo Chuchka's _Prizvyshcha zakarpats'kykh ukrayintsiv_ (Surnames
                    of Transcarpathian Ukrainians) shows the surname Beskyd in Uzhhorod
                    and Perechyn raions/districts of the Zakarpatska oblast. (I think
                    Turia Remety is in the Perechyn raion.) In those raions there are
                    villages named:

                    Lubnia
                    Liuta
                    Luh
                    Lintsi
                    Liakhovtsi
                    Lumshory
                    Likitsary
                    Lypovets'

                    Lypovets', Likitsary, and Lumshory are in the Turia river valley not
                    far from Turia Remety. The others are somewhat further away but
                    remote if you look at the geography.

                    What Helene said about their first names is right on. Slovaks would
                    not have named their children Vasil or Dimitri. Nor did Slovaks join
                    the Orthodox Church in the U.S. except in a few cases in the 1930s,
                    to the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese.

                    RDC
                  • aunttootie
                    Thank you all for the information! I ve been so immersed in the websites you ve posted that I haven t even thanked you, and for that I apologize. I ve already
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jan 3, 2009
                      Thank you all for the information! I've been so immersed in the
                      websites you've posted that I haven't even thanked you, and for that I
                      apologize.

                      I've already learned so much on this list, and I'm looking forward to
                      learning more! I do have a photo of my grandparents and most of their
                      children that I'll put in the photos folder.

                      Again, thanks!!!

                      Terri
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