Re: I'm a new mwmber and wanted to say hi
- I am not Robin but I really enjoyed reading the article you wrote
about Rusyns. My grandmother was a Rusyn, she was Anna Plavcan and
was born in Orlov in 1888. Over the years I have been researching her
families,the variations of Plavcan, the Havrillas, Hrabtsaks and her
first husband the Varhola's. In all this research I have never been
able to find my grandmothers immigration records. Her daughter, my
mother, says she came here at the age of 16, smuggled over the Polish
border at night by her mother, her father did not want her to come to
the US but she was young and wanted to come to America for a better
life. When she got here she stayed with an aunt in New Jersey, maybe
Montclair?. Later an uncle already here arranged her marriage to
Andrew Varhola and they settled in southeast Pennsylvania, Andrew
working for the mines, my mother being born in Coalport. My mother is
92 and is living in Arizona and I visit her a few times a year
spending a month or so. I have many notes of things she has told me
about her family, superstitions, what people did for a living, etc.
When she starts stalking I start writing.
I just signed up for this group and enjoy reading the messages.
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "vchromoho" <rcuster@...> wrote:
> (Pardon me if I repeat something someone else has contributed -- I
> haven't read through the whole thread yet.)
> I don't think anybody mentioned this yet, but Hostovice and Vysna
> Jablonka are villages inhabited almost entirely by Rusyns (as
> opposed to Slovaks, or Hungarians, etc.). Rusyns are a separate
> ethnic group from Slovaks, much in the way that Ukrainians are
> different from Russians and Slovaks are different from Czechs. Many
> Rusyns live in Slovakia (primarily in the northeastern area of the
> country) but many more live elsewhere, such as Ukraine. Certainly
> this is one group (of many) that are applicable to your research,
> since your family comes from present-day Slovakia.
> I encourage you to read about Rusyns (also called Carpatho-Rusyns,
> since they live primarily around the Carpathian Mountains)
> Here's a few places to get you started.
> A detailed summary of Rusyn history, culture, etc.:
> Something I wrote primarily about Rusyns in Slovakia (there are a
> lot of typos in this web version, though):
> Various articles from the Encyclopedia of Rusyn History and
> on many, many topics:
> and last but definitely not least,
> Carpatho-Rusyn Society
> Bill Tarkulich's site is another ideal resource especially since
> your villages aren't far from his; I highly recommend it.
> By the way, Scranton, Pa. was the largest settlement in the U.S. of
> Rusyns from Vysna Jablonka; Binghamton, New York was another
> destination. Many from Hostovice also went to Scranton, as well as
> to Pittsburgh, McKees Rocks, and other nearby towns.
> Good luck!
> Rich Custer
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Robin" <robin618@> wrote:
> > No, As far as I know everyone lived in the Scranton/Dunmore area
> of North East Pennsylvania.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Caye Caswick
> > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [S-R] I'm a new mwmber and wanted to say hi
> > Robin, did most of your relatives live around Chicago?
> > --- On Mon, 12/29/08, kssrobinl <robin618@> wrote:
> > From: kssrobinl <robin618@>
> > Subject: [S-R] I'm a new mwmber and wanted to say hi
> > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 9:21 AM
> > Hi,
> > I've been researching my family tree for about 10 years and
> > moved to my Father's family. Sad to say that besides him and a
> > long lost cousins we have no family here is the US. All I know
> > my great-grandparents is what I have found on thier Ellis
> > logs. I am told that we came from slovakia, but here is what I
> > If any of you can tell me if I'm in the right group please do.
> > Vasil dZak - home town listed on ship logs as Jablonska
> > Zuzzanna dZak- home town listed as Hostovice
> > Nearest relative still in orig country listed as Jan dZak -
> > Zemplinska Vysni Jabonska
> > Arrived in USA April 1921
> > Am I in the correct forums?
> > robin
- Thank you, hopefully every little tip I get will lead me to my grandmother. I would love to show my mother, now 92 and Anna's daughter when she came her and her life before my mother was born.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Tarkulich
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [S-R] Re: ANNA PLAVCAN - ORLOV
Just a lot of experience, doing this thousands of times for 10 years.
The trick is to use as few letters a possible in Steve Morse's tool. Idea
being that the letters are probably good for the first few characters, then
the probability is high it wrong the more letters you add.
First identify what all the possible village names would be, past and
present, and adjacent village names to.
Second, put part of the village name into Steve's form. I started with
I also need to put the first letter of a last name in or it will take
forever. Start with the obvious P, then try looks-likes. Hey, it's only 26
letters in the alphabet. If no hits on ORLO, I back off to ORL .
If I start to find surnames from ORLO or ORLOV, I write them down. If I
don't find my surname, I then search for other surnames from the same
village. I then look at each manifest and see who traveled with them.
And you do this over and over again until you have exhausted all the
So, I've left you with the evidence. Your personal research I leave to you,
I don't do that. Remember, there is likely to be more than one person with
the same name. So it will take skullduggery on your part to sort out who is
From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of margesonny
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:11 PM
Subject: [S-R] Re: ANNA PLAVCAN - ORLOV
Bill, how do you find this stuff so fast?
1. Anna had a brother Jan or Janos but not Peter
2. Her mother was Zuzanna Hrabtsakova Plavcan but she never
came to the US
3. I am told she came in through NY and went to CT to stay with an
aunt. I understand her brother Jan came before her and that he was
the one that arranged her marriage to Andrew Varhola
I have a file of Plavcan information, I need to go through it again,
may have something there I am missing
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich"
> Search for other people from this village.
> I started with various old names for the same village, then
> neighboring villages when I saw the name showing up nearby.
> I find these record in Ellis Island interesting
> Plawcsan, Janos
> B. 1865, arrived 1908
> Village of Andrejovka (nearby village)
> First arrived in the US, 1903-1906, went to his brother PETER in
> Left behind a wife, Panaka?
> Plawcsan, Zuzanna
> Kijos, Hungary, KIJO which is now KYJOV (another nearby village)
> Arrive 1912, age 18.
> Went to Bridgeport CT, left behind father Janos.
> This could be it:
> Plavcsan, Anna
> Kija, Hungary
> Born 1894 (how sure are you of her birth year?)
> Arrived 1914
> Went to Bridgeport CT
> Went to brother in law Janos Pavlik
> Maid servant single, aged 20
> Held for special inquiry (with deported crossed out) - suggest you
> end of manifest pages for this roll to see what the disposition
> The "cs" was a standard Magyar spelling. Plavcan would have been
> Good Luck,
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