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  • Christian Lesinsky
    My name is Christian Lesinsky and history was my major most of this article is correct. But there are thee corrections to be made the Nicene Council set the
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      My name is Christian Lesinsky and history was my major most of this article is correct. But there are thee corrections to be made the Nicene Council set the date of Pascha (Easter in the West) which was the first full moon after the Spring Equinox but not until the Jews celebrate Passover. The second they used the Julian calendar which was used in the Roman Empire established and named for Julius Caesar and not a Pope. Pope Gregory was Roman Catholic and not Russian Orthodox. All of the Orthodox Churches still follow the Julian calendar for Pascha (Easter). The Roman and the other Western Churches follow the new calendar which puts Easter (a pagan term) after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox but they forget the Jewish Passover. So the Western Church didn't figure the Jewish Passover and the Orthodox Churches still do. Yes the old calendar is now 13 days off and will be 14 days in the very near future. That is why both Churches
      celebrate on different days and every so ofter they celebrate on the same day.

      --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Marilyn Hertenstein <mjhertenstein@...> wrote:

      From: Marilyn Hertenstein <mjhertenstein@...>
      Subject: [S-R] Double Dates in Genealogy - Interesting reading!
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:16 AM






      Double dating in genealogy needn't be mysterious

      by Mona Robinson Herald-Times Columnist
      December 31, 2006
      The "double dates" you sometimes find in family records, such as "born
      1701/02," can be mystifying. Didn't the recorder know in which year the
      person was born? Those double dates occur in the old records only in
      January, February and March - never in any other months - and never after
      1752.

      The system of double dating occurred because of a change made in the
      calendar in 1582. Prior to that date the Julian calendar, established by
      Pope Julius, was used throughout the Christian world. This system, dividing
      the year into 365 days with an extra day every fourth year, was adopted at
      the Nicene Council in AD 325.

      Once it was possible to measure the length of the solar year more
      accurately, it was learned that the Julian system exceeded the solar year by
      11 minutes, or 24 hours every 131 years, and three days every 400 years.
      Between 325 and 1582, this excess amounted to about 10 days, so that the
      vernal equinox had been set back from 21 March to 11 March and calculations
      for Easter were therefore incorrect.

      In 1582, Pope Gregory, head of the Russian Orthodox Church, ordered that 10
      days be dropped from the calendar to restore the equinox to its proper
      place. To prevent this error from recurring, he ordered that in every 400
      years the leap year's extra day should be omitted three times. It was to be
      omitted on centennial years in which four without a remainder could not
      divide the first two numbers. Thus it was omitted in 1700, 1800 and 1900,
      but not in 2000. This Gregorian calendar is still in effect, making us
      "right with the sun."

      The decree also changed the beginning of the year from 25 March to 1
      January. All Catholic countries adopted the new system, but England refused
      to adopt the new calendar until 1752, or 170 years later, when the calendar
      difference was a little more than 11 days. So, in English-speaking countries
      and colonies, the Julian calendar prevailed, and March 25 was still New
      Year's Day.

      In spite of the difference in the official calendar, many people began to
      use the Gregorian system. In many early colonial records you will see
      "double dates," written as "9 March 1656/57." indicating that some people
      considered it to be 1657. Gov. Winthrop dated one letter 22 March 1629 and
      six days later he dated another one 28 March 1630.

      When the British government finally recognized that a mistake had been made
      in calculating the solar year and, in order to shift into line with the rest
      of Europe, the Gregorian system was officially adopted. When citizens in
      rural England learned that 2 September would be followed by 14 September,
      they felt that they would "lose 11 days of their lives" and they rioted!

      An example of what the change meant is seen in the birth date of George
      Washington. He was born on 11 February 1731 (Old Style), but with the
      calendar change in 1752, he changed his birthday to 22 February 1732 (New
      Style).

      Look for discrepancies in dates before 1752, and label them O.S. (Old Style)
      and N.S. (New Style). This change in the calendar can explain the birth of
      two children within too short of a time. You might find a son born 27 March
      1640 and the next child born on 28 February 1640. In this case, the dates
      were "old style," and there were actually eleven months between the births,
      instead of just 27 days.

      So, thanks to Pope Gregory, you can observe New Year's Day tomorrow and not
      have

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