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RE: [S-R] The mining hamlet of Sonntagsgrund, Slovakia (Markusovce)

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  • Marilyn Hertenstein
    Very interesting! I am really enjoying this exchange of ideas since I was at a dead end on my research abilities. To all of you posting under this subject
    Message 1 of 2 , May 27 5:53 AM
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      Very interesting! I am really enjoying this exchange of ideas since I was at a dead end on my research abilities. To all of you posting under this subject line, Thank You, I appreciate your time and interest.

      Marilyn

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      Subject: [S-R] The mining hamlet of Sonntagsgrund, Slovakia (Markusovce)



      Looking at
      http://books. <http://books.google.com/books?id=caMAAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA203&dq=Sonntagsgrund> google.com/books?id=caMAAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA203&dq=Sonntagsgrund

      The Monatliche Korrespondenz zur Befoerderung der Erd- und Himmelskunde by Freiherr Franz Xavier Zach notes the religions of the Zipser villages, and includes
      in the volume for 1809, p. 203, in the area of Kotterbach "the small hamlets of Olse, Komarocz, Sonntagsgrund, Prekopa, Koritne, Babina, Hlinik, Hegeny, with altogether 120 Catholic and 28 Lutheran inhabitants."

      Late 19th century documents talk about a copper mine in Sonntagsgrund (in German documents "der Sonntagsgrund"--it is not only a village name, but also for the general area. It is clearly near Kotterbach. There is even a small track train going there, to carry the ore. The Dechenania (Newsletter of the Niederrheinische Society for Nature and Medicine) in 1876, p. 147, mentions a visit there.

      A more recent Slovak books on mines mention the Sonntagsgrund copper mine,
      I cannot see the whole page on Googlebooks, perhaps someone in Slovakia could: Geologickʹe prʹace, 1959, p. 130.

      Thomas

      ---- Janet Kozlay <kozlay@comcast. <mailto:kozlay%40comcast.net> net> wrote:
      > Hi Marilyn,
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      > It seems to me that a place would be named Sonntagsgrund (and I agree on the translation as Sunday place) only if it were a market town, because markets were usually held on Sundays, after church. If this is the case, Sonntagsgrund must have been more than a tiny hamlet.
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      > I also agree that Horné Pršany seems really far fetched.
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      > In 2003, Lisa Baker transcribed the birth records for Markusovce in 1869-1871. There were 10 villages named in these records. Most were from Teplicka, Csepanfalu, and Markusfalu. The next most frequently mentioned were Kotterbach (Rudnany)—36 times, Lieskovany—22 times, and Sonntagsgrund—22 times.
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      > Looking at a map of that area, there appear to be three villages that are about the same size as Lieskovany—Odorin, Jamnik, and Matejovce. These village names do not appear in the birth records, so I suspect that one of them was also called Sonntagsgrund by the local population.
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      > Janet
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