Re: [S-R] Where to research Immigration and naturalization documents?
- Hmmmmm, I must not have been clear. I didn't mean he traveled with a
child but that he went to Chicago, got a job and sometime afterwards,
his wife and child immigrated later. I was looking for an ADULT John
McGrath but should also expand my research for a woman and child named
McGrath. My mother's gr-grandfather (John) was born in Ireland. I
found a Hugh in Chicago about the right time his father, if it
happened that way, would be living there. As I said, Hugh is a name
that repeats in the family.
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich"
> Hello "jmellicant",
> I won't ever say "never", but I have yet to see any records from my
> where a male travels with very young dependent children, especiallybabies,
> without a woman. Traditionally, the male leads first, works long andone)),
> arduous hours (who would care for children? There was no consideration
> given for that back then for childcare, plus men often lived in boarding
> houses, which often are less than family-friendly (I once lived in
> accumulates enough money to bring along children and wife in a couple ofwas 16
> years. The female adult was always the caregiver, unless the child
> (for most countries) and then allowed to travel alone (withoutsome
> Children were *always* enumerated on the manifests, even babies. In
> cases, children were born onboard, and in this case, they were alsoadded to
> the end of the manifests. As a rule, if I find a relative on a ship'srecords)
> manifest, I always scour the entire manifest (not just the adjacent
> for a misplaced relative, family or village friend who may also beon board.
> People stuck together (such as in a line waiting to be manifested) butnumber of
> sometimes, rarely but sometimes, were displaced in line for any
> reasons.for the
> Regarding Chicago and records.
> Immigration records will be limited largely to the ship manifests
> time period you seek. These records are quite sketchy and often containDetailed
> very little other than the ship, name, country of origin and age.
> information wasn't mandated until 1904.. The Family History Centerhas many
> on fiche, Ancestry has been putting 1890s manifests online (for afee). I
> recommend joining Ancestry only when there are records relevant to you,Archives
> which you can get no where else (short of a trip to the National
> branch.Submitting a
> A naturalization file is often held by the US government. Somewhere.
> Depending on the year and geography, their repository varies.
> Freedom Of Information Request (which costs no money for smallfiles, but
> requires HUGE patience of a year or more now that Homeland Securitythere
> administers it) is a logical next step. See
> http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/ins_foia_petitions.htm. Of course,
> will be no Alien Registration Form (unless alive in 1939 and notonly
> naturalized.) There will be naturalization documentation even if he
> completed first or second papers and never completed naturalization. Inspelling
> some cases, there will be no file at all, for reasons we may never know.
> Remember as you research records that your immigrant information
> may vary on the documents, so give careful consideration to all.Magyar
> You've got the golden egg: village name. You didn't mention it, but I'd
> recommend tracing back. To trace back, I'd recommend looking at the SNV
> church records at the Family History Center. After that, the 1869
> Census.[mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [S-R] Where to research Immigration and naturalization
> A couple of questions. My Slovak gr-grandparents immigrated to Chicago
> in the 1890's. Where would I go (or send my father who lives in
> Chicago) to research the documents? He's already been to the regional
> National Archives office to pull up his grandfathers WWI Draft
> document (located a mere 5 blocks from the family home). A win because
> we finally got his place of birth, Iglo, Austria (Spisska Nova Ves,
> Slovakia). I've sent him back to see what else he can squeeze out of
> their records but he evidently has a life and hasn't got around to
> In the mean time, I've been researching the Irish side of my family
> and was wondering if anyone has had this experience. Supposedly my
> mother's gr-grandfather, John McGrath, was born in Ireland in 1843 and
> I have been searching for him high and low to no avail. Along the way
> I found a Hugh McGrath, born 1825, in Chicago, who was living in a
> rooming house with no family.
> Now the name Hugh appears often in the family from one generation to
> another and I was thinking, even though my mother can't confirm it, if
> it's likely that the adult John I've been trying to track the
> immigration record for might have come over as a babe in arms? Brought
> over by Hugh who blazed the trail for his wife and child.
> As usual, I won't believe anything until I got the documents to
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