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  • Maureen E.Greff
    My husband s family came to Canada in 1956. I am trying to trace his roots. I am not sure if this is the correct avenue. this is my first message to the group.
    Message 1 of 3 , May 12, 2006
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      My husband's family came to Canada in 1956. I am trying to trace his roots. I am not sure if this is the correct avenue. this is my first message to the group.
      I really would apprecaite someone telling me if this is the appropriate group.
      As far as I know, the family had roots in Szirak, Zsigard, Bzovik. the family names are Borbely, Morvay, Erdelyi, Timor, Valach and Mojzis.
      Please let me know if I should be looking elsewhere. I know that the area they are from is no longer part of Hungary. I don't know where it is as I know so little about Europe let alone the language.

      I would appreciate any help that anyone can give me.
      thanks so much
      Maureen

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    • johnqadam
      Apologies in advance for any accented characters that don t reproduce properly. BASIC RESEARCH HELP For basic research help, be sure to visit Bill Tarkulich s
      Message 2 of 3 , May 12, 2006
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        Apologies in advance for any accented characters that don't
        reproduce properly.

        BASIC RESEARCH HELP
        For basic research help, be sure to visit Bill Tarkulich's excellent
        site at http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/

        >>> the family had roots in Szirak, Zsigard, Bzovik. the family
        names are Borbely, Morvay, Erdelyi, Timor, Valach and Mojzis.<<<

        Szirák, Borsod Megye = county later called Borsodszirák. South of
        Edelenyi, Hungary.
        or . . .
        Szirák Nógrád Megye, now Sziraki, Hungary.

        Bzovík, Slovakia, formerly Bozók, Hont, Hungary. 4 km southeast of
        Krupina, Slovakia.

        Zsigard, Pozsony Megye now Ziharec, Slovakia. 9 km south of S'ala.

        SLOVAK TELEPHONE WHITE PAGES
        You might find relatives in Slovakia who have a telephone by looking
        them up in the phone book white pages at
        http://www.zoznamst.sk/hladaj?co=st_zoznam_en

        To use the search engine, you need to complete the first 5 letters
        of last name plus wild card *

        In the 'Town' section use 00 and leave the area code blank to search
        all Slovakia.

        The Slovak area code map is at
        http://www.centroconsult.sk/facilities/phonemap.html

        Borbely(ova) occurs 42X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It does
        not appear in area code 045.

        Borbély František Nádražná 678, Žihárec
        Borbély Karol Nádražná 666, Žihárec

        Morvay(ova) occurs 21X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It
        appears 4X in area code 045, none in Bzovik.

        Morvay Alexander Nádražná 686, Žihárec
        Morvay Peter Nádražná 692, Žihárec
        Morvay Tibor Žihárec 56, Žihárec

        Erdelyi(ova) occurs 20X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It does
        not appear in area code 045.
        Erdelyi Július Nádražná 742, Žihárec
        Erdélyiová Etela Žihárec 231, Žihárec

        Valach(ova) appears 7X in area code 031, including S'ala. It appears
        60X in area code 045, none in Bzovik.

        Mojzis(ova) appaers 2X in are code 031, once in S'ala. It also
        appears 108X in area code 045 (for Bzovik).
        Mojžiš Peter Bzovík 173, Bzovík
        Mojžiš Štefan Bzovík 166, Bzovík

        Timor(ova) does not appear in all Slovakia.

        For Bzovik, you can research church records but NOT for Ziharec as
        they have not yet been released by LDS. See below.

        CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
        CENTER (FHC)
        When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth
        village is paramount because records are organized by village not
        nationally, so it is not possible to search on a national basis. It
        is also necessary to know the religion. To locate church records for
        Slovakia, knowing the village/town name, go to the LDS web site:
        www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp The church
        records cover baptisms (krsteni), marriages (sobeseni) and deaths
        (zomreli).

        LDS has Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages and
        deaths for Bzovík, Slovakia, formerly Bozók, Hont, Hungary.

        Krstení 1686-1694 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2011169 Item 7 ]

        Krstení 1694-1716 Sobášení 1686-1724 Krstení 1716-1722 Zomrelí 1686-
        1724 Krstení 1723-1760 Zomrelí 1725-1760 Sobášení 1725-1760 Krstení
        1761-1807 Sobášení 1807, 1761-1807 Zomrelí 1761-1807 Krstení 1808-
        1850 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2011170 ]

        Krstení 1850-1867 Sobášení 1808-1867 Zomrelí 1808-1867 Krstení 1868-
        1871 Sobášení 1868-1871 Zomrelí 1868-1871 - VAULT INTL Film [
        2011171 ]

        LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FILM
        You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
        Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need
        to go there in person to order the film(s). In about a month, the
        film will arrive and you can book a film reader and begin your
        research.

        TRANSLATION OF CHURCH RECORDS
        Checkout http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ for parish record header
        translations.

        For a Hungarian translation guide which you can download –
        http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?
        Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab
        =&Entry=&Guide=WLHungarian.ASP

        For Ziharec, you would need to use a genealogist in Slovakia to do
        research at the archive. A very good one just happens to live in the
        area of interest, Peter Nagy. Check his web site at
        http://www.centroconsult.sk/genealogy/index.html

        For any ancestors from current day Hungary, you will need to use a
        Hungarian board.

        Good luck.
      • Janet Kozlay
        Szirák, in Nógrád megye, is still Szirák, not Sziraki. Sziraki means from Szirak. I was just there in March. All of the names with the exception of
        Message 3 of 3 , May 12, 2006
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          Szir�k, in N�gr�d megye, is still Szir�k, not Sziraki. Sziraki means "from
          Szirak." I was just there in March.



          All of the names with the exception of Mojzis seem to be Hungarian. You
          might want to join the RootsWeb Hungary mail list.



          Mojzis may also be spelled Moyzis.



          Janet





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          To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [S-R] Re: Hungarian roots -- some Slovak



          Apologies in advance for any accented characters that don't
          reproduce properly.

          BASIC RESEARCH HELP
          For basic research help, be sure to visit Bill Tarkulich's excellent
          site at http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/

          >>> the family had roots in Szirak, Zsigard, Bzovik. the family
          names are Borbely, Morvay, Erdelyi, Timor, Valach and Mojzis.<<<

          Szir�k, Borsod Megye = county later called Borsodszir�k. South of
          Edelenyi, Hungary.
          or . . .
          Szir�k N�gr�d Megye, now Sziraki, Hungary.

          Bzov�k, Slovakia, formerly Boz�k, Hont, Hungary. 4 km southeast of
          Krupina, Slovakia.

          Zsigard, Pozsony Megye now Ziharec, Slovakia. 9 km south of S'ala.

          SLOVAK TELEPHONE WHITE PAGES
          You might find relatives in Slovakia who have a telephone by looking
          them up in the phone book white pages at
          http://www.zoznamst.sk/hladaj?co=st_zoznam_en

          To use the search engine, you need to complete the first 5 letters
          of last name plus wild card *

          In the 'Town' section use 00 and leave the area code blank to search
          all Slovakia.

          The Slovak area code map is at
          http://www.centroconsult.sk/facilities/phonemap.html

          Borbely(ova) occurs 42X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It does
          not appear in area code 045.

          Borb�ly Franti�ek N�dra�n� 678, �ih�rec
          Borb�ly Karol N�dra�n� 666, �ih�rec

          Morvay(ova) occurs 21X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It
          appears 4X in area code 045, none in Bzovik.

          Morvay Alexander N�dra�n� 686, �ih�rec
          Morvay Peter N�dra�n� 692, �ih�rec
          Morvay Tibor �ih�rec 56, �ih�rec

          Erdelyi(ova) occurs 20X in area code 031, including Ziharec. It does
          not appear in area code 045.
          Erdelyi J�lius N�dra�n� 742, �ih�rec
          Erd�lyiov� Etela �ih�rec 231, �ih�rec

          Valach(ova) appears 7X in area code 031, including S'ala. It appears
          60X in area code 045, none in Bzovik.

          Mojzis(ova) appaers 2X in are code 031, once in S'ala. It also
          appears 108X in area code 045 (for Bzovik).
          Moj�i� Peter Bzov�k 173, Bzov�k
          Moj�i� �tefan Bzov�k 166, Bzov�k

          Timor(ova) does not appear in all Slovakia.

          For Bzovik, you can research church records but NOT for Ziharec as
          they have not yet been released by LDS. See below.

          CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
          CENTER (FHC)
          When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth
          village is paramount because records are organized by village not
          nationally, so it is not possible to search on a national basis. It
          is also necessary to know the religion. To locate church records for
          Slovakia, knowing the village/town name, go to the LDS web site:
          www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp The church
          records cover baptisms (krsteni), marriages (sobeseni) and deaths
          (zomreli).

          LDS has Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages and
          deaths for Bzov�k, Slovakia, formerly Boz�k, Hont, Hungary.

          Krsten� 1686-1694 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2011169 Item 7 ]

          Krsten� 1694-1716 Sob��en� 1686-1724 Krsten� 1716-1722 Zomrel� 1686-
          1724 Krsten� 1723-1760 Zomrel� 1725-1760 Sob��en� 1725-1760 Krsten�
          1761-1807 Sob��en� 1807, 1761-1807 Zomrel� 1761-1807 Krsten� 1808-
          1850 - VAULT INTL Film [ 2011170 ]

          Krsten� 1850-1867 Sob��en� 1808-1867 Zomrel� 1808-1867 Krsten� 1868-
          1871 Sob��en� 1868-1871 Zomrel� 1868-1871 - VAULT INTL Film [
          2011171 ]

          LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FILM
          You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
          Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need
          to go there in person to order the film(s). In about a month, the
          film will arrive and you can book a film reader and begin your
          research.

          TRANSLATION OF CHURCH RECORDS
          Checkout http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ for parish record header
          translations.

          For a Hungarian translation guide which you can download -
          http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?
          Dest=G1&Aid=&Gid=&Lid=&Sid=&Did=&Juris1=&Event=&Year=&Gloss=&Sub=&Tab
          =&Entry=&Guide=WLHungarian.ASP

          For Ziharec, you would need to use a genealogist in Slovakia to do
          research at the archive. A very good one just happens to live in the
          area of interest, Peter Nagy. Check his web site at
          http://www.centroconsult.sk/genealogy/index.html

          For any ancestors from current day Hungary, you will need to use a
          Hungarian board.

          Good luck.






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