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Re: [S-R] The Elderly

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  • Marianne Petruska
    Look at the 1869 Hungarian census info: Many households had elderly family members living with their children -- usually a son & his family, in some cases
    Message 1 of 4 , Jan 26, 2006
      Look at the 1869 Hungarian census info: Many households had "elderly"
      family members living with their children -- usually a son & his
      family, in some cases two sons, their wives and the grandchildren --
      in most cases the widowed mothers. In some cases, though, widowers
      lived with son/sons & his/their family/families. (In some households
      in Saris megye there were "elderly" family members, born in the 1780s-
      1800, living with their children & the children's families.) In most
      of those households, however, the families were farmers and lived off
      their little parcel of land.

      Look at what some of us are doing here in the U.S. today: Adult
      children moving "home" to take care of aging parents whose Social
      Security money doesn't stretch far enough to keep them "secure" in
      their homes. The price of "Senior Housing" is outrageous & unless the
      Sr. Citizen has a pension or some other income other than Social
      Security, many if not most of them are unable to find "affordable
      housing". Nursing homes are not always suitable or financially

      I went through this with my own mother after her retirement (and
      until her recent passing). In the early 1950s, my maternal
      grandfather lived with us until the time of his passing -- same
      reason: his Social Security income could not cover his housing, let
      alone utilities & and food.

      It wasn't uncommon then -- and it isn't now -- for 3 generations to
      live in one household.


      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Tarkulich"
      <bill.tarkulich@i...> wrote:
      > Becki,
      > Family took care of each other, as a general rule. Of course each
      > is unique and it can be somewhat dangerous to speculate. Having
      said that,
      > I would expect that other relatives would pitch in, such as other
      > or sister's families. If we are talking about small rural villages,
      there is
      > no one to "pay".
      > The economic system in small villages is far more complex than we
      > with a lot of bartering going on. That said, I don't think anyone
      > "pay" economically to take care of family.
      > In the worst case of impoverishment, I could envision the elderly
      might live
      > by themselves, live off their garden and perhaps a few hen. But
      then again,
      > the houses in these village were all close together, it would be
      > for a neighbor to ignore you. Remember, in a small village,
      everyone knows
      > what is going on, and in some form, connected to each other.
      > The flip side is that healthcare and disease being what it was a
      > years ago, if you lived well into your 50's, you were doing pretty
      > So, to postulate is probably not going to get you too far!
      > Bill
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-
      ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of Becki Blair
      > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:09 PM
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [S-R] The Elderly
      > I'm curious. If you were a peasant in Hungary or Czechoslovakia in
      > latter 1800's and early 1900's and had no sons (or they immigrated)
      and you
      > became to old to physically work, what became of you and your
      family? Who
      > took care of the elderly or who paid for their care?
      > Becki
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