Hungarian and Slovak Nobility - Online databases
- The old Arcanum database used to have just Nagy, Kempelen, and Siebmacher's
Wappenbuch. However, there are over 30 works on the DVD, some of which were
published in the 20th century, at least as late as 1950. The Gudenus book,
however, is not among them. I will want to check out your suggested website
when I get through all these names.
From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Laco R (Slovak Roots)
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
I dont have the Arcanum DVD - but as far a i know it ends in
the end of the 19th century.
There is a very interesting database online . Based on the
work of Gudenus and his book "A magyarországi fonemesség
századi genealógiája" (Genalogy of hungarian genealogy in
The website is complet in hungarian and the access is not so
the website is http://www.pim.hu
click on the link in the left part marked with "Adatbázisok"
(databases), than it appears a picture - click on it - you
will see a list of links - interesting are the last two:
- A magyarországi fonemesség genealógiája
in this database is only higher nobility to find
- Magyar családtörténeti adattár
in this database are also people which are not from
both databasis have entries form the 19th and 20th
Click on "Keresés" (Search)
or you can use this two links directly:
You have now the possibility to search - a small translation
Név - Name
Születési hely - Birth place
Születési dátum - Birth date
Halálozási hely - Death place
Halálozási dátum - Death date
Egyenlo - is equal
Kezdodik - begins with (I think the best value)
Tartalmaz - includes
Kisseb - less than
Nagyob - greater than
third field - here you can enter what to search for
Vagy - Or
És - And
Vagy nem - Or not
És nem - And not
When everything is comleted - click on "Keresés" and you
will recieve a list of results.
PS. sory for my bad english, I hope it will help somebody
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
> All three of these lists seem to be VERY abbreviated.
> Hungary had one of the
> highest proportions of nobility among European
> countries--about five
> percent. Only Poland might have had more. I have the
> Arcanum DVD which is a
> collection of many volumes written about Hungarian noble
> families. If anyone
> is interested in a particular family name, I can do a
> look-up. Although
> almost all of them are written in Hungarian, there are
> many genealogical
> tables and coats of arms included.
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- It has her listed as Ilona/Julia, presumably because
of the tendency to give the Hungarian form of names.
It is unfortunate that this print-off of the parish
register is so difficult to read. The original was bad
enough, but this print-off is slightly worse.
--- Vladimir Bohinc <konekta@...> wrote:
> Dear James,__________________________________________________
> I do not see, where you see Julia. I reat Ilona at
> best. Her father was Antal Hajder and mother was
> Terez. The surname of this mother is impossible to
> identify absolutely correctly, because there are too
> many possibilities. But, an extisting surname
> Tomanik in Rajecke Teplice seems to be very close.
> Janos Hajder was a brick layer. HIs wife was Maria
> Gabor was born in Kosice and Ilona was born in
> Rajecke Teplice.
> I also see, you are obsessed with this Germany. You
> have enough data to look at the church records,
> finally. There, with marriage records, there you
> have a chance to see where the Hajder was from .
> Especially, when he came straight from the Germany,
> it will be noted there. If not, then he came from
> another village, which maybe had a significant
> number of german population and in such case, it is
> usually known, where did they come from.
> In general, languages spoken in towns were hungarian
> and german. Very little slovak, because there were
> not very many Slovaks in towns.
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