RE: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
- I don't know, Vladimir. Sometimes I wonder about the aliases listed in
there. This isn't the first one that made me scratch my head. Here are the
From Kempelen Béla: Farkas (alias Ovcsárovics). Nemességét 1557-bõl l. OL:
From Turul 1883-1950: FARKAS alias OVCSÁROVICS. 1557. NRA. 28834.
NRA. = Neo Regestrata Acta. (Ujonnan lajstromozott iratok) a m. kir.
From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Vladimir Bohinc
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
this made me laugh.
How can that be, that a name Ovcharovics is an alias Farkas? Incredible.
Ovcharovics is derived from Ovca = Sheep, and Farkas is a Wolf :-)))
- It has her listed as Ilona/Julia, presumably because
of the tendency to give the Hungarian form of names.
It is unfortunate that this print-off of the parish
register is so difficult to read. The original was bad
enough, but this print-off is slightly worse.
--- Vladimir Bohinc <konekta@...> wrote:
> Dear James,__________________________________________________
> I do not see, where you see Julia. I reat Ilona at
> best. Her father was Antal Hajder and mother was
> Terez. The surname of this mother is impossible to
> identify absolutely correctly, because there are too
> many possibilities. But, an extisting surname
> Tomanik in Rajecke Teplice seems to be very close.
> Janos Hajder was a brick layer. HIs wife was Maria
> Gabor was born in Kosice and Ilona was born in
> Rajecke Teplice.
> I also see, you are obsessed with this Germany. You
> have enough data to look at the church records,
> finally. There, with marriage records, there you
> have a chance to see where the Hajder was from .
> Especially, when he came straight from the Germany,
> it will be noted there. If not, then he came from
> another village, which maybe had a significant
> number of german population and in such case, it is
> usually known, where did they come from.
> In general, languages spoken in towns were hungarian
> and german. Very little slovak, because there were
> not very many Slovaks in towns.
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