RE: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
- Hi Janet:
I would be interested in any information you had about the noble Ovcharovich
(Olcsarovics) and the Illia (Illya) families.
[mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Janet Kozlay
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: [S-R] Hungarian and Slovak Nobility
All three of these lists seem to be VERY abbreviated. Hungary had one of the
highest proportions of nobility among European countries--about five
percent. Only Poland might have had more. I have the Arcanum DVD which is a
collection of many volumes written about Hungarian noble families. If anyone
is interested in a particular family name, I can do a look-up. Although
almost all of them are written in Hungarian, there are many genealogical
tables and coats of arms included.
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- It has her listed as Ilona/Julia, presumably because
of the tendency to give the Hungarian form of names.
It is unfortunate that this print-off of the parish
register is so difficult to read. The original was bad
enough, but this print-off is slightly worse.
--- Vladimir Bohinc <konekta@...> wrote:
> Dear James,__________________________________________________
> I do not see, where you see Julia. I reat Ilona at
> best. Her father was Antal Hajder and mother was
> Terez. The surname of this mother is impossible to
> identify absolutely correctly, because there are too
> many possibilities. But, an extisting surname
> Tomanik in Rajecke Teplice seems to be very close.
> Janos Hajder was a brick layer. HIs wife was Maria
> Gabor was born in Kosice and Ilona was born in
> Rajecke Teplice.
> I also see, you are obsessed with this Germany. You
> have enough data to look at the church records,
> finally. There, with marriage records, there you
> have a chance to see where the Hajder was from .
> Especially, when he came straight from the Germany,
> it will be noted there. If not, then he came from
> another village, which maybe had a significant
> number of german population and in such case, it is
> usually known, where did they come from.
> In general, languages spoken in towns were hungarian
> and german. Very little slovak, because there were
> not very many Slovaks in towns.
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