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RE: [S-R] Hungary/Slovak / Bohemia history in 1906

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  • Bill Tarkulich
    First of all, 1904 to 1908 this region was gripped with the pains of World War I. He was of prime military conscription age, one reason to bail. He s lucky
    Message 1 of 5 , Sep 18 4:20 PM
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      First of all, 1904 to 1908 this region was gripped with the pains of World
      War I. He was of prime military conscription age, one reason to bail. He's
      lucky he got out. Most shipping and travel was downscaled tremendously
      during the war years.

      This was common behavior to never go back. There were several reasons,
      mostly just circumstances.

      1. First coming over with nothing, it took time to get established and earn
      some money. Many people went back and forth especially in 1909 to 1918.
      2. WWI 1914-1918 got in the way.
      3. After WWI, immigration quotas were dramatically reduced. I know it
      doesn't affect you once you're here, but it's a mitigating circumstance
      (others unable to join him)
      3. Having kids can slow down your desire to travel.
      4. WWII, with circumstances starting in 1938, Germany's annexation of the
      "Sutenland", made it impossible to return. To 1945.
      5. After 1945, with the formation of Czechoslovakia, and the rise of
      socialism, it became generally prohibited to transit between there and the
      US, as we became "enemy" nations.
      6. During these years, they continued to correspond, but had less in common
      as the years transpired. Eventually, correspondents began to pass away, and
      the common bond began to be lost.
      6. After 1989, with the walls of socialism finally torn down, citizens
      finally began to freely transit and correspond more openly. A little later,
      sad to say...

      Hope this helps a little.

      ______________
      Bill Tarkulich



      -----Original Message-----
      From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of scorpioforu
      Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 5:53 PM
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [S-R] Hungary/Slovak / Bohemia history in 1906

      Are there any Slovak history buffs out there that would like to take a
      stab at this?
      Trying to figure out what might have been going on in the country,
      area or family that one of our ancestors would run from these areas to
      America in 1906 and never look back or have any further family contact
      with them intentionally.
      Name: Turaj Bahak Paolik (on passenger list) went by the name of
      George Pavlik in America. Born 1884, Meako, Austria-Hungary. Died
      1969, Logan, OH. We beleive father's name was also George or Turaj.

      Anna Duratin (on passenger list) went my Anna Duratny Pavlik in
      America. Born abt. 1889. Last place of residency before departure to
      US was Isowabanfakvu, Slovak.

      Thank you!

      Becki






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    • johnqadam
      Becki, Bill T does not often make a mistake but he said There is one fellow, Naartjie, who is well-versed at research in the SR. in an earlier message. Bill
      Message 2 of 5 , Sep 18 6:56 PM
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        Becki, Bill T does not often make a mistake but he said "There is
        one fellow, Naartjie, who is well-versed at research in the SR." in
        an earlier message. Bill made a typo.

        Naartjie ONLY works on Czech genealogy and ONLY appears on the
        Delphi site and so you won't find him showing up here. Find Naartjie
        at forums.delphiforums.com/iarelative/messages

        As others have located your Slovak villages, you can look for church
        records for those.

        CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
        CENTER (FHC)
        When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth
        village is paramount because records are organized by village not
        nationally, so it is not possible to search on a national basis. It
        is also necessary to know the religion. To locate church records for
        Slovakia, knowing the village/town name, go to the LDS web site:
        www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

        LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FILM
        You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
        Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need
        to go there in person to order the film(s). In about a month, the
        film will arrive and you can book a film reader and begin your
        research.

        TRANSLATION OF CHURCH RECORDS
        Checkout http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ for parish record header
        translations.

        LDS also has a pretty good translation guide which you can download.
        See forums.delphiforums.com/iarelative/messages message #3931.1 for
        details.
      • Bill Tarkulich
        Oops....Mea culpa! ______________ Bill Tarkulich ... From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of johnqadam Sent:
        Message 3 of 5 , Sep 18 7:13 PM
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          Oops....Mea culpa!

          ______________
          Bill Tarkulich



          -----Original Message-----
          From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of johnqadam
          Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:57 PM
          To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [S-R] Czech Repunlic Genalogy

          Becki, Bill T does not often make a mistake but he said "There is
          one fellow, Naartjie, who is well-versed at research in the SR." in
          an earlier message. Bill made a typo.

          Naartjie ONLY works on Czech genealogy and ONLY appears on the
          Delphi site and so you won't find him showing up here. Find Naartjie
          at forums.delphiforums.com/iarelative/messages

          As others have located your Slovak villages, you can look for church
          records for those.

          CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
          CENTER (FHC)
          When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth
          village is paramount because records are organized by village not
          nationally, so it is not possible to search on a national basis. It
          is also necessary to know the religion. To locate church records for
          Slovakia, knowing the village/town name, go to the LDS web site:
          www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

          LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FILM
          You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
          Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need
          to go there in person to order the film(s). In about a month, the
          film will arrive and you can book a film reader and begin your
          research.

          TRANSLATION OF CHURCH RECORDS
          Checkout http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ for parish record header
          translations.

          LDS also has a pretty good translation guide which you can download.
          See forums.delphiforums.com/iarelative/messages message #3931.1 for
          details.






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        • johnqadam
          CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY CENTER (FHC) When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth village is
          Message 4 of 5 , Sep 18 7:16 PM
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            CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
            CENTER (FHC)
            When searching for genealogical information, knowing the birth
            village is paramount because records are organized by village not
            nationally, so it is not possible to search on a national basis. It
            is also necessary to know the religion. To locate church records for
            Slovakia, knowing the village/town name, go to the LDS web site:
            www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

            LDS has Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages,
            deaths and confirmations for Dolná Maríková, Slovakia, formerly
            Marikova, Trencsén, Hungary.

            Krstení 1756-1786 - FHL INTL Film [ 1923102 Item 6 ]
            Krstení 1786-1788 -- Sobášení 1756-1788 -- Zomrelí 1756-1788 --
            Krstení 1789-1843 -- Birmovaní 1798 -- Zomrelí 1789-1842 -- Sobášení
            1789-1843 -- Birmovaní 1860 -- Krstení 1843-1881 - FHL INTL Film [
            1923103 ]
            Krstení 1881-1895 -- Sobášení 1843-1895 -- Zomrelí 1843-1895 - FHL
            INTL Film [ 1923104 Items 1 - 4 ]

            Cachitce, Nyitra Megye = county church records are not yet available
            at LDS but may be some day. See the next paragraph.

            FICHES (set of 6) LDS #6000786
            Survey of parish registers in Slovakia up to the time of civil
            registration. Provides details of church records that are held in
            Slovak archives. Index of villages is on fiche #6 and page
            references refer to different religions. Check for Cachitce. When
            released, these church records will be available on film via your
            LDS Family History Center.

            HOWEVER, the very informative 1869 Hungarian census IS available for
            Cachitce:
            Csejthe (Èachtice) Film #2150818 Item 3
            (cont.) Csejthe (Èachtice) Film #2150819 Item 1


            LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FILM
            You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
            Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need
            to go there in person to order the film(s). In about a month, the
            film will arrive and you can book a film reader and begin your
            research.

            TRANSLATION OF CHURCH RECORDS
            Checkout http://www.bmi.net/jjaso/ for parish record header
            translations.

            LDS also has a pretty good translation guide which you can download.
            See forums.delphiforums.com/iarelative/messages message #3931.1 for
            details.
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