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8855Re: [S-R] terms for family members

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  • Vladimir Bohinc
    Dec 12, 2003
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      Dear Christopher,
      It is one of the two possibilities, where I would think, it rather means
      brother in law.
      But, to be sure, one would have to ask somebody, that is more acquainted
      with Rusyn terms of this sort.
      Vladimir

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "christopher gajda" <christophergajda@...>
      To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:19 PM
      Subject: Re: [S-R] terms for family members


      > on photo's from my relatives in Uzhgorod they wrote the word "sovgor" to
      identify one man; I thought it might have been a misspelling of "svogor" but
      in his funeral pictures there is a wreath that has "shovgor" written in
      Cyrillic. Is this some kind of regional variation or is this an entirely
      different word?
      >
      > Vladimir Bohinc <konekta@...> wrote:Dear Joe,
      > Svagor is the brother of my wife.
      > Svokor and svokra are her parents.
      > We had a joke:
      > Show a photo of your svokra in a drug store and you can get any poison
      > without prescription.
      > They are very understandable people:-)
      > Vladimir
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Armata, Joseph R. (JArmata)" <JArmata@...>
      > To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:36 AM
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] terms for family members
      >
      >
      > > Kinship terms are really complicated! The old Slavs seemed to
      > > have a separate word for every sort of relationship; and the old
      > > terms along with imports from German and Hungarian are often used
      > > in different ways in different parts of the country.
      > >
      > > Unfortunately, s~vagor can be either: father-in-law or
      > > brother-in-law, depending on local usage. For father-in-law, it
      > > traditionally refers to the wife's parents, though it wouldn't be
      > > surprising if it were used for the husband's father too
      > > somewhere.
      > >
      > > Tyotka/tetka/tsetka and variations are general terms for aunt.
      > >
      > > Traditionally, terms based on stri-/stry- refer to uncles and
      > > aunts on your father's side, while those with vuj-/uj- refer to
      > > uncles and aunts on your mother's side.
      > >
      > > So striko and strina would be uncle and aunt respectively on the
      > > father's side, while vuyko and vuyna would be the same on the
      > > mother's side.
      > >
      > > Joe
      > >
      > >
      > > > Does anyone know the precise relationship for "sovgor" (shovgor)?
      Based
      > > > on some old photos and letters I had thoght "sovgor" meant
      > > > brother-in-law, but recently some Russian exchange students told me
      > > > "sovgor" was father-in-law.
      > > >
      > > > Recently someone had wrote about the terms used for various family
      > > > members; in letters from Uzhgorod to my grandmother her neices who
      grew
      > > > up in the Austro-Hungarian and Czechoslovak periods addressed her as
      > > > "Tyutka" - but their children who grew up in USSR after WWII addressed
      > > > my grandparents as "Strika i Strina". My grandmother sometimes used
      a
      > > > word which sounded to me like "way-ka" for "uncle".
      > >
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