6785Re: [S-R] Re: Help needed with a surname...
- Jan 16, 2003Yes, Frank, I am here in Slovensko, especially interested in surnames, evolution and migration.
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank <frankur@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: [S-R] Re: Help needed with a surname...
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Vladimir Bohinc" <konekta@n...>
> Dear Frank,
> I found those four under the surname Kormancsik.
> The surname Korman, however, is also a legitimate slovak surname, of
which I have found many on church records.
> I would bet, Korman bas the basic surname and Kormancik was derived
You are quite correct.
So, -c^ik or -cik were modifiers to the actual root name Korman.
And misspelled in ship manifest as Komanczik and Komancsik.
>From Buková (Sk) Bikszárd (H), Bernolákovo (Sk) Cseklész (H),
and Oravské Veselé (Sk) Veszele (H)
Korman was the 'root word'.
Slovak diminutive forms -ko, -ak, -ek, and -ik were used as surname
affixes indicating small size or state /quality (of smallness)
Slovak surnames :
Kormanak, Kormanik Kormancik, Kormanc^ik, Kormanovic, etc.
You are in Slovensko.
I haven't been there since 1946 and am not current on surname
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frank <frankur@a...>
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:08 PM
> Subject: [S-R] Re: Help needed with a surname...
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Kristi <mcrulz@n...>"
> <mcrulz@n...> wrote:
> > My grandmother emmigrated from Czechoslovakia to the United
> > the early part of last century. Here she married a Polish man by
> > last name of Ziemba. My problem is that I know her maiden name
> > was "Kormancyk", but I'm not sure about the spelling since I've
> > searched numerous databases with no result. If anyone knows
> > about the proper spelling of this surname, a reply would be much
> > appreciated.
> The Hungarian letter 'cs' was usually equivalent to Slovak
> diacritical letter c^ = ch.
> In surnames the letters i/y were usually interchangeable.
> You could expect variants of the Slovak spelling for Kormancyk.
> For example, 4 surnames Kormancik emigrated to the U.S.
> from Veszele (H) Hungary, which is Oravské Veselé (Sk) located
> in western Slovakia.
> Some emigrants changed or shortened names after arrival in the
> For example, => Korman.
> That is not the problem.
> How to identify which Ziemba was your GM's spouse ?
> What was his first name and they married and settled where ?
> 488 surnames Ziemba emigrated to the U.S. via Ellis Island
> Gedcom files list over 400 surname Ziemba bearers.
> There are thousands of surnames Ziemba bearers just in the U.S.
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