34766Re: [S-R] ordained ministers and their genealogy
- Dec 4, 2012v. CN † King Leopold I, in AD 1710 one-and nobility. crest letter (in union with the race Leporisz) also (in the clubs with the tribe of Leporisz), which in 1711 was Trentschiner ctte publicirt - is how Google Translate did your German notation.
Trentschiner is Trencsén county (in Latin: comitatus Trentsiniensis/Trenchiniensis, in Hungarian Trencsén (vár) megye, in Slovak Trenčiansky komitát/ Trenčianska stolica/ Trenčianska župa, German: Trentschiner Gespanschaft/Komitat) is the name of a historic administrative county (comitatus) of the Kingdom of Hungary. Its territory is presently in western Slovakia.
There is a state archive in Trencin, but it is pretty limited in its holdings. The Slovak National Archive in Bratislava would be a better one to try and see if they have the document you are looking for.
There is a problem with the notation – King Leopold I died in 1705, so how he could be doing something in 1710 is interesting.
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] ordained ministers and their genealogy
Thx! Any chance you might know where to chase this 'described document' down. State Archives?
....v. KÑnig Leopold I., i. J. 1710 einen Adels- u. Wappenbrief (im Vereine mit dem Geschlechte Leporisz), welcher 1711 im Trentschiner Ctte publicirt wurde.
--- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
> http://www.ecav.sk/?p=uvitanie This is the website of the Evangelical Church in Slovakia. They have an English site, but very little is there since it seems to be under construction. I would think that you should be able to contact them about where the pastors were located.
> http://www.evangelikus.hu/nyitolap?set_language=en&cl=en Here is the website for the Evangelical Church in Hungary.
> From: leporis1
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:39 AM
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> Subject: [S-R] ordained ministers and their geneology
> I have put a file up in 'Leporis' files that at the top of the list is "#5 Andreas_Leporis". I see that on #34 is a Vietoris also. The Vietoris is well known to me as a family alliance with the Leporis from apparently 1611 (during reformation) through at least the late 1700's. (see Joseph Drenko / Kunova Teplica..), also partially uploaded in my file list. Here is the question! How in the world am I going to track all the Evangelical (Lutheran) pastors in my family from Liptov to Kunova Templica? Does the Hungarian Reformed Church hold such records? My main partner in this quest is actually a Vietoris descendant whose gggrandpa was god son to Leporis (Advocate) in Kosice. What can I say, Lutheran pastors moved a lot obviously. Also I invite you all to look for your family's names and possible ancestors (probably would be Lutheran) in these very old documents I managed to score for our viewing pleasure. In following historical documents I have come to some fantastic realizations in my own ancestry which make for an interesting story of some sort.. In any case I seem to be so close yet so far in joining the dots as my family was very duplicitous in their religious believes ie: communion in both kinds etc. (topic for SK world probably). The transition of religion from Catholic to Lutheran is probably the most interesting story yet considering the players involved. What's confusing me even more is Gasper Leporis(Ucitel/teacher)and his brother(s) moving to Vojvodina (NW of Novi Sad, old Jugoslavia). Linking him to Revuca was simple enough but still searching concrete data. As Curt and I have discussed before Revuca Evangelical church data was mostly destroyed by fire. However, enough was retained for Joseph Drenko to mention my ancestors there. So what do I do? Too long of post? I know exactly where this is all leading for the family as Siebacher's and the Hungarians have left solid clues for me in their armorial records however I still have too many gaps to present in essay what I've found. I'd appreciate any feed back no matter what.
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