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3291Re: LDS Parish Records

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  • frankur@att.net
    Mar 11, 2001
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      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@y..., knorton2@h... wrote:
      > I've been going throught the Greek Catholic parish records for the
      > towns of Olejnikov, Lutina, and Hanigovce, in Saris county. I found
      > my grandfather's confirmation when he was about age 2 1/2 in the
      > christening lists in 1888. His birth is listed as illegitimate and
      > there is a notation that he was born in America with his birth date.

      > My great-grandparents are listed as his parents, although it does
      > say, "his wife" after my great-grandmother's name as most of the
      > other entries do. I'm wondering why my grandfather is listed is
      > illegimate. Were my great-grandparents not married yet at the time
      > of his birth? That is the obvious explanation. I also thought
      > could be other reasons though such as not being married in the
      > church, being married in America, or my grandfather not being
      > baptized previously. My grandfather was born in PA and the family
      > apparently moved back to Slovakia, eventually coming back to the
      > permanently. A second child was born in Slovakia (1892) and my
      > grandparents are listed as his parents with the birth listed as
      > legitimate. I am hoping someone out there is more familiar than me
      > with church practices during that time. Karen Norton, Lee,MA

      The G.C. parish records for Lutina were written in
      Latin, Hungarian, and Ruthenian.

      English Hungarian
      legitimate törvényes
      illegitimate child törvénytelen gyerek

      English Latin
      legitimate legitimatus
      illegitimate illegitmus

      Some parish churches kept duplicate copies of the records.
      Druhopisy (i.e. second writing) was a duplicate copy known
      as the bishop's copy'.
      So a duplicate of the original record may have been
      sent elsewhere.
      Some years have both parish records and "bishop's copies".
      Other years have only "bishop's copies", others only the parish
      >From 1828, the parish was obliged to make a copy of entries and
      send them to archives, so some records are preserved in duplicate.

      The Krstení (christenings) for Lutina (Litinye) 1860-1895 were
      Written in which language ?

      What was the surname parent's religion listed as ?

      Why I ask is that in cases of 'mixed marriages', G.C, priests were
      known to tell the couples they had not been actually married
      and such couples sometimes later remarried and even rebaptized their
      children ?

      Some abbreviations used for various denominations :
      Hungarian English
      rk.-RK. római katholikus Roman Catholic
      gk. GK. görög katholikus Greek Catholic/Byzantine
      kg. KG. keleti görög Greek Oriental (Eastern Orthodox)
      ag. AG. ágostai Evangelical (Lutheran)
      ref. REF. református Reformed (Calvinist)
      izr. IZR. izraelita Israelite (Jewish)
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