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  • Michael Mojher
    Apr 1 9:34 AM
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      Tom,
      vagy in Hungarian is "or". I could not find insurgent in a Hungarian
      dictionary. Correct spelling.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Tom Potsko
      Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:53 AM
      To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],

      Does insurgent mean illegitimate(followed by a first name) when listed as
      parent in a baptismal record? Tom

      2011/4/1 Tom Potsko <jaschr71@...>

      > If a baptismal record lists under parents: Havir vagy Szemko Janos for
      > child Janos is the surname Havir or Szemko? Is Vagy the word for alias?
      > Tom
      >
      >
      > 2011/4/1 Tom Potsko <jaschr71@...>
      >
      >> Is it possible that these church records would be in the Presov region,
      >> and if so, in what main village, or is this Kosice region, and what
      >> village?
      >> Saris zupa, I believe should be in Presov region. Not sure about Kosice?
      >> Tom
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Michael Mojher
      >> <mgmojher@...>wrote:
      >>
      >>> 1647 Obi¹ovce KS/KI ¹ari¹.
      >>> 1773 Abbos, Obisowcze, 1786 Abosch, Obussowce, 1808 Abos, Obussowce,
      >>> Obyssowce, 1863 Abbos, 1873-1913 Abos, 1920-1954 Oby¹ovce, 1954-
      >>> Obi¹ovce
      >>>
      >>> V obci OBI©OVCE (okr. KO©ICE-VIDIEK) sa v roku 1995 - MACKO 2× In 1995
      >>> in Obisovce 2 Macko lived.
      >>>
      >>> From: Tom Potsko
      >>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:53 PM
      >>> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      >>> Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Village named Obisovce.
      >>>
      >>> 2011/3/31 Tom Potsko <mailto:jaschr71%40gmail.com>
      >>>
      >>> > Is anyone familiar with a villave named Obisovce? Looking for Macko,
      >>> > Maczko. Thanks, Tom
      >>> >
      >>> >
      >>> > 2011/3/29 Tom Potsko <mailto:jaschr71%40gmail.com>
      >>> >
      >>> >> Sam,
      >>> >>
      >>> >> Thanks, Tom
      >>> >>
      >>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Samuel Ontko <mailto:
      >>> smontko%40hotmail.com>wrote:
      >>> >>
      >>> >>> Yes, now it's called Hlinne. That is where the Greek Catholic church
      >>> was.
      >>> >>> Been there
      >>> >>>
      >>> >>> Sam
      >>> >>>
      >>> >>> From: Tom Potsko
      >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:30 PM
      >>> >>> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >>> >>> Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>> >>>
      >>> >>>
      >>> >>> Is Agyagos near these villages/alternative name(Slovak)? Tom
      >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >>> >>> mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >>> >>>
      >>> >>> > It is common for villages in Upper Hungary (Slovakia) to have as
      >>> many
      >>> >>> as
      >>> >>> > eight different names over the last 200 years. Most villages have
      >>> three
      >>> >>> or
      >>> >>> > four.
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> > This is from Bill's website. So knowing the name of the village
      >>> during
      >>> >>> a
      >>> >>> > certain time period is useful. An example is when someone fills
      >>> >>> > out
      >>> the
      >>> >>> > information on a Ship's Manifest. By seeing the spelling of the
      >>> village
      >>> >>> is
      >>> >>> > can give you an idea of the time period of their arrival. It
      >>> happened
      >>> >>> when
      >>> >>> > my grandfather arrived on when spelling, went home for a visit an
      >>> >>> re-entered
      >>> >>> > with a different spelling for his village.
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> > From: Tom Potsko
      >>> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:11 PM
      >>> >>> > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> > In the Presov Records(Hungarian place names) they use Csaklyo and
      >>> >>> Sokut. I
      >>> >>> > always show the Hungarian village name first followed by the
      >>> current
      >>> >>> Slovak
      >>> >>> > village name. In doing research, I see both referenced, but on
      >>> >>> different
      >>> >>> > documents, so it's always helpful to know both. Thanks, Tom
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >>> >>> > mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >>> >>> >
      >>> >>> > > Tom,
      >>> >>> > > Since I'm not a linguist I really can't answer the question with
      >>> >>> > > authority. I would say that the last spelling is definitely
      >>> Slovak.
      >>> >>> With
      >>> >>> > the
      >>> >>> > > creation of Czechoslovakia in 1918 I would presume that village
      >>> names
      >>> >>> > would
      >>> >>> > > have gone to a Slovak spelling. In genealogy is is proper to use
      >>> the
      >>> >>> > > spelling that was in place at the time of any incident you are
      >>> >>> sighting.
      >>> >>> > You
      >>> >>> > > can footnote the modern name.
      >>> >>> > >
      >>> >>> > > From: Tom Potsko
      >>> >>> > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:22 PM
      >>> >>> > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >>> >>> > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>> >>> > >
      >>> >>> > >
      >>> >>> > > Would the Slovakia names be Ceklov and Sol or Sola, and the
      >>> Hungarian
      >>> >>> > names
      >>> >>> > > be Csaklyo and Sukut. I always try to associate the Hungarian
      >>> village
      >>> >>> > name
      >>> >>> > > to the village current name in Slovakia. The family I am
      >>> researching
      >>> >>> also
      >>> >>> > > has references to Vranov nad Toplou, so this makes sense. Thanks
      >>> so
      >>> >>> much,
      >>> >>> > > Tom
      >>> >>> > >
      >>> >>> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >>> >>> > > mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >>> >>> > >
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > > 276 Èaklov VT/PV zemplín.
      >>> >>> > > > 1773 Csaklyó, C¾aklow, 1786 Cschaklyo, 1808 Csaklyó,
      >>> >>> > > > C¾aklowce,
      >>> >>> 1863,
      >>> >>> > > > 1877-1913 Csáklyó, 1873 Csáklya, 1920 Èekµov, Èaklov, 1927-
      >>> Èaklov
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > > 2188 Soµ VT/PV zemplín.
      >>> >>> > > > 1773 Soókut, Solya, 1786 Schókút, Solya, 1808 Sókút, Szolya,
      >>> Sola,
      >>> >>> 1863
      >>> >>> > > > Sóskút, 1873-1913 Sókút, 1920 Soµa, Sol, 1927- Soµ
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > > Tom,
      >>> >>> > > > They are only 3 km apart on Highway 18 just northwest of
      >>> >>> > > > Vranov
      >>> nad
      >>> >>> > > > Topl'ou in far eastern Slovakia.
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > > From: Tom
      >>> >>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:05 PM
      >>> >>> > > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >>> >>> > > > Subject: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > >
      >>> >>> > > > Is this a valid Presov village(not sure if it's Hungarian or
      >>> >>> > Slovakian)?
      >>> >>> > > > Anything similar?
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