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  • Tom Potsko
    Apr 1, 2011
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      If a baptismal record lists under parents: Havir vagy Szemko Janos for child
      Janos is the surname Havir or Szemko? Is Vagy the word for alias? Tom

      2011/4/1 Tom Potsko <jaschr71@...>

      > Is it possible that these church records would be in the Presov region, and
      > if so, in what main village, or is this Kosice region, and what village?
      > Saris zupa, I believe should be in Presov region. Not sure about Kosice? Tom
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      > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Michael Mojher <mgmojher@...>wrote:
      >
      >> 1647 Obi�ovce KS/KI �ari�.
      >> 1773 Abbos, Obisowcze, 1786 Abosch, Obussowce, 1808 Abos, Obussowce,
      >> Obyssowce, 1863 Abbos, 1873-1913 Abos, 1920-1954 Oby�ovce, 1954- Obi�ovce
      >>
      >> V obci OBI�OVCE (okr. KO�ICE-VIDIEK) sa v roku 1995 - MACKO 2� In 1995 in
      >> Obisovce 2 Macko lived.
      >>
      >> From: Tom Potsko
      >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:53 PM
      >> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      >> Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >>
      >>
      >> Village named Obisovce.
      >>
      >> 2011/3/31 Tom Potsko <mailto:jaschr71%40gmail.com>
      >>
      >> > Is anyone familiar with a villave named Obisovce? Looking for Macko,
      >> > Maczko. Thanks, Tom
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > 2011/3/29 Tom Potsko <mailto:jaschr71%40gmail.com>
      >> >
      >> >> Sam,
      >> >>
      >> >> Thanks, Tom
      >> >>
      >> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Samuel Ontko <mailto:
      >> smontko%40hotmail.com>wrote:
      >> >>
      >> >>> Yes, now it's called Hlinne. That is where the Greek Catholic church
      >> was.
      >> >>> Been there
      >> >>>
      >> >>> Sam
      >> >>>
      >> >>> From: Tom Potsko
      >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:30 PM
      >> >>> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >> >>> Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >> >>>
      >> >>>
      >> >>> Is Agyagos near these villages/alternative name(Slovak)? Tom
      >> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >> >>> mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >> >>>
      >> >>> > It is common for villages in Upper Hungary (Slovakia) to have as
      >> many
      >> >>> as
      >> >>> > eight different names over the last 200 years. Most villages have
      >> three
      >> >>> or
      >> >>> > four.
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> > This is from Bill's website. So knowing the name of the village
      >> during
      >> >>> a
      >> >>> > certain time period is useful. An example is when someone fills out
      >> the
      >> >>> > information on a Ship's Manifest. By seeing the spelling of the
      >> village
      >> >>> is
      >> >>> > can give you an idea of the time period of their arrival. It
      >> happened
      >> >>> when
      >> >>> > my grandfather arrived on when spelling, went home for a visit an
      >> >>> re-entered
      >> >>> > with a different spelling for his village.
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> > From: Tom Potsko
      >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:11 PM
      >> >>> > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >> >>> > Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> > In the Presov Records(Hungarian place names) they use Csaklyo and
      >> >>> Sokut. I
      >> >>> > always show the Hungarian village name first followed by the current
      >> >>> Slovak
      >> >>> > village name. In doing research, I see both referenced, but on
      >> >>> different
      >> >>> > documents, so it's always helpful to know both. Thanks, Tom
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >> >>> > mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >> >>> >
      >> >>> > > Tom,
      >> >>> > > Since I'm not a linguist I really can't answer the question with
      >> >>> > > authority. I would say that the last spelling is definitely
      >> Slovak.
      >> >>> With
      >> >>> > the
      >> >>> > > creation of Czechoslovakia in 1918 I would presume that village
      >> names
      >> >>> > would
      >> >>> > > have gone to a Slovak spelling. In genealogy is is proper to use
      >> the
      >> >>> > > spelling that was in place at the time of any incident you are
      >> >>> sighting.
      >> >>> > You
      >> >>> > > can footnote the modern name.
      >> >>> > >
      >> >>> > > From: Tom Potsko
      >> >>> > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:22 PM
      >> >>> > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >> >>> > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >> >>> > >
      >> >>> > >
      >> >>> > > Would the Slovakia names be Ceklov and Sol or Sola, and the
      >> Hungarian
      >> >>> > names
      >> >>> > > be Csaklyo and Sukut. I always try to associate the Hungarian
      >> village
      >> >>> > name
      >> >>> > > to the village current name in Slovakia. The family I am
      >> researching
      >> >>> also
      >> >>> > > has references to Vranov nad Toplou, so this makes sense. Thanks
      >> so
      >> >>> much,
      >> >>> > > Tom
      >> >>> > >
      >> >>> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Michael Mojher <mailto:
      >> >>> > > mgmojher%40comcast.net>wrote:
      >> >>> > >
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > > 276 �aklov VT/PV zempl�n.
      >> >>> > > > 1773 Csakly�, C�aklow, 1786 Cschaklyo, 1808 Csakly�, C�aklowce,
      >> >>> 1863,
      >> >>> > > > 1877-1913 Cs�kly�, 1873 Cs�klya, 1920 �ek�ov, �aklov, 1927-
      >> �aklov
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > > 2188 So� VT/PV zempl�n.
      >> >>> > > > 1773 So�kut, Solya, 1786 Sch�k�t, Solya, 1808 S�k�t, Szolya,
      >> Sola,
      >> >>> 1863
      >> >>> > > > S�sk�t, 1873-1913 S�k�t, 1920 So�a, Sol, 1927- So�
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > > Tom,
      >> >>> > > > They are only 3 km apart on Highway 18 just northwest of Vranov
      >> nad
      >> >>> > > > Topl'ou in far eastern Slovakia.
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > > From: Tom
      >> >>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:05 PM
      >> >>> > > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      >> >>> > > > Subject: [S-R] Csaklyo, Sokut [Sol],
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > >
      >> >>> > > > Is this a valid Presov village(not sure if it's Hungarian or
      >> >>> > Slovakian)?
      >> >>> > > > Anything similar?
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