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28666[S-R] Re: Illeg

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  • nilo3rak
    Jan 12, 2011
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      A woman ahead of her time.

      More of our time, you think?
      Carolyn

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Evelyn Marsh <evelynmarsh@...> wrote:
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      > Deb,
      > My grandmother had 3 illegitimate children in Slovakia before coming to the US. From what I understand, the family were not too happy about it. They wanted her to leave - through my research, I discovered that child #3 was a girl and she died at 3 1/2 years in Jan. - grandmother left in Nov the same year with son #2 - son #1 came to US 4 years later. She went to her younger married sister in CT and proceeded to have 2 more illegitimate children - according to my mother, her mother-in-law did not want to be married - she did not want a husband telling her how to raise her children - but wanted children that she supported by herself by taking in roomers, babysitting and doing ironing etc. She raised as much food as she could and they went to work when they were young to help in the support. Makes for interesting conversations. Some of my family really are upset about this part of our heritage. I find all the discussions on this topic on this site very interesting.
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      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > From: dremetta@...
      > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:34:17 +0000
      > Subject: [S-R] Re: Illeg
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      > LOL...yes, happens today but the stigma is less!
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      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, William <wfbrna@> wrote:
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      > > On 1/10/2011 9:40 AM, Deb wrote:
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      > > > So interesting...it's like you were reading my mind. I, too, have been
      > > > going through the films online and have been very surprised at the
      > > > number of illegitimate children born. Only rarely is the father noted.
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      > > > Was the family "shamed"??? Anyone know how these illeitimate births
      > > > were viewed...seemed to be quite a few in the 1850-1890 timeframe
      > > > where I've been focusing my search.
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      > > > Insights anyone?
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      > > > Deb
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      > > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>, "tom geiss" <tomfgurka@>
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      > > > > One of the stange quirks about genealogy is that, whenever an
      > > > illegitimate child is born, the name of the father is never mentioned.
      > > > > I saw, in viewing films, that my great-grandmother had two children
      > > > before she ever got married. She was listed at the same house number
      > > > where my grandma and her siblings were born
      > > > > She was called "servilis" which , I presume meant that she was a
      > > > housemaid? Finally she got married.
      > > > > Tom
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      > > What makes you think that this is not happening today? Not only in
      > > Slovakia but also in other countries, such as the US, for example.
      > > Besides, when you get down to it, there are no illegitimate babies but,
      > > more properly, illegitimate parents.
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      > > Bill Brna
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