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  • nilo3rak
    Jan 10, 2011
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      Helen,
      "Free mother" that has a nice ring to it, much better than the illegitimate label. However, that was the legal and church appellation.

      It's the same old stuff - tomorrow I may die - deny me nothing. Then the women are left to fend for themselves.
      Carolyn



      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, helene cincebeaux <helenezx@...> wrote:
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      > Hi Deb - i was told that when the young men were taken into military service for
      > 2 years at age 18 - the year before that they were denied nothing. They got new
      > clothes and partied.
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      > They couldn't go to service married so that's why so many marriages were alter
      > legitimatized - God help the poor girl whose boyfriend never came back or who
      > found another.
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      > i recall in the 70s when i learned a good friend's mother was a "free mother" -
      > in other words she had the child but never married - it seemed to be OK.
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      > also back then it seemed like in so many cases young people didn't marry until
      > the woman was pregnant.
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      >   these were my observations from experiences traveling there.
      >
      > helene
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      > From: Deb <dremetta@...>
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 9:40:46 AM
      > Subject: [S-R] Re: Illeg
      >
      >  
      > So interesting...it's like you were reading my mind. I, too, have been going
      > through the films online and have been very surprised at the number of
      > illegitimate children born. Only rarely is the father noted.
      >
      > Was the family "shamed"??? Anyone know how these illeitimate births were
      > viewed...seemed to be quite a few in the 1850-1890 timeframe where I've been
      > focusing my search.
      >
      > Insights anyone?
      >
      > Deb
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "tom geiss" <tomfgurka@> wrote:
      > >
      > > One of the stange quirks about genealogy is that, whenever an illegitimate
      > >child is born, the name of the father is never mentioned.
      > > I saw, in viewing films, that my great-grandmother had two children before she
      > >ever got married. She was listed at the same house number where my grandma and
      > >her siblings were born
      > > She was called "servilis" which , I presume meant that she was a housemaid?
      > >Finally she got married.
      > > Tom
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