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28634[S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM

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  • John
    Jan 6, 2011
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      When I was looking at Google Earth, I observed an enclave at the southeast edge of town -- but somewhat separate. Google Earth does not provide a good image. I wonder if this might be the Kishegy area. It's just a thought.

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Nancy Gibbs <bohnenstiehl1952@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks for the information. It sure can get confusing but I am grateful for the
      > help this group has given me. On to making my records accurate.
      > Nancy
      >
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      > ________________________________
      > From: CurtB <curt67boc@...>
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 12:20:57 AM
      > Subject: [S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM
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      > Nancy,
      > Thanks for posting the reference. Both Harsag and Kishegy were outlying parts
      > of northeast Petrovany. Kishegy more likely just a large farm. They never had
      > independent village existence and today are just included in Petrovany. The
      > priest is being meticulous in observing all the local distinctions at the time.
      >
      > As to relationship to Mocarmany someone suggested, the section of the register
      > referred to was the marriage register. So married couples each require the
      > place of habitiation. Two people from Mocarmany married individuals from
      > Kishegy. But so did people from Petrovany.
      >
      > Mocarmany has survived as a place today south of Petrovany but just barely.
      > Petrovany runs right into Mocarmany.
      >
      > So, when it comes to entering something into your records, since the register
      > says Kishegy, I suppose that is what to use, but would require the note which
      > says a non-village designation, now part of Petrovany.
      >
      > Best,
      > Curt B.
      >
      > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Nancy Gibbs <bohnenstiehl1952@> wrote:
      > >
      > > The birth record I referred to is found at Slovakia Place Names, Petrovany,
      > > Roman Catholic, #831, page 10, number 19 Janos, parents Sztraka, Gabor and
      > > Varga, Maria. Thanks for the help.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: CurtB <curt67boc@>
      > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 2:18:19 PM
      > > Subject: [S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM
      > >
      > >
      > > Nancy,
      > > I am familiar with the Petrovany records. Petrovany church also served the
      > > villages of Harsag and Mocsarmany, but not Kishegy which is a long ways away in
      > >
      > > Hungary. However in some Petrovany records the pastor will record the place of
      > >
      > > birth of a parent! not born in Petrovany, Harsag or Mocsarmany. That may be
      > > the case in your instance.
      > >
      > >
      > > Since the Petrovany records are online, why don't you post an exact reference
      > >so
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      > > we can take a look at the record.
      > >
      > > Curt B.
      > >
      > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Nancy Gibbs <bohnenstiehl1952@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I understand now about the place names of the countries. Now I have a
      > >question
      > >
      > > >
      > > > about the village. i.e. I found a birth record in the Petrovany records but
      > >
      > > > the location & house number listed is Kishegy (sp?). Do I list Petrovany or
      >
      > > > Kishegy? I sure have a lot of corrections to do--thanks--at least I now know
      > >
      > > > it'll be accurate.
      > > > Nancy
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ________________________________
      > > > From: Michael Mojher <mgmojher@>
      > > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 12:15:58 PM
      > > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Nancy,
      > > > During the period of written records the land of present day Slovakia was
      > >ruled
      > >
      > > >
      > > > by the Hungary for the 900’s until 1867. Then it was Austro-Hungary
      > >until
      > >
      > > >1918.
      > > >
      > > > That when it became Czechoslovakia. Finally, 1993 it became Slovakia. For
      > >your
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      > > > records anything before 1867 should be list as Hungary. From 1867 to 1918
      > > > Austro-Hungarian, 1918 to 1993 Czechoslovakia and 1993 on as Slovakia. You
      > >can
      > >
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      > > > footnote somewhere that the village is now in Slovakia. But I would not put
      > > > Slovakia in a the place unless it is after 1993.
      > > >
      > > > From: Nancy Gibbs
      > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:23 AM
      > > > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > > > Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM
      > > >
      > > > I was advised to record the information as to where I found it so future
      > > > researchers could go to the place where I found it. So I have put Slovakia on
      > >
      > > > all my findings. Please, somebody correct me if I am wrong; this is the
      > >feeling
      > >
      > > >
      > > > I am getting from all the responses.
      > > >
      > > > ________________________________
      > > > From: haluska <mailto:ddhalusker%40yahoo.com>
      > > > To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 10:30:27 PM
      > > > Subject: [S-R] Re: Entering Surnames on FTM
      > > >
      > > > I am with Michael.Enter it as found. Stay with the place name of the time. I
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      > > > have Births in Austria-Hungary,Marriages in Czechoslovakia and Deaths in The
      >
      > > > Slovak Republic entered into my Database for example.
      > > >
      > > > --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "hyperlexiadaddy" <cowboyhat@>
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      > > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Hi
      > > > > I'm listing US birth certificate names like this:
      > > > >
      > > > > John Reginald SMITH
      > > > >
      > > > > (how do I get the capital A with the accent mark on
      > > > > the Slovak visual keyboard?)
      > > > >
      > > > > I'm going to be adding folks born
      > > > > in Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, Austria-Hungary,
      > > > > and Galicia.
      > > > >
      > > > > Shall I enter the Slovak
      > > > > or Hungarian spelling of the surname?
      > > > >
      > > > > Shall I list the birth country as it was at time of
      > > > > birth?
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks
      > > > > Dave
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