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18120Re: [S-R] tornoczki (part 2)

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  • Julia Anderson
    Sep 3, 2007
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      Thank you - book ordered - as well as Blacklisted by Paul Lendvai, an account of his life.
      Looks very interesting (and sad).
      Julia Anderson (Tornoczki)
      Cambridge, UK
      Julia and group,
      Sorry I accidentally hit the send button before I finished the
      original message.
      Reference the 1956 revolution, the second book I would recommend
      is by a Hungarian who escaped himself and wrote what I was told is the
      most objective history of Hungary. His name is Paul Lendvai and he's
      apparently a very prominent TV personality in Austria. The name of
      the book is, "The Hungarians: A Thousand Years of Victory in
      Defeat"... It is a history book so it is not as gripping as the
      Michener book but gives a very good account of telling events in
      Hungary's history, one of which is the 1956 revolution.
      Just my two cents worth but I hope it helps in your quest.

      Paul in Bratislava
      Homebase in Carlisle, PA, USA

      --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@...> wrote:
      > Dear Julia,
      > The names Tornoczki, Tornoczi, and Tornoci all mean "from Tornoc," a
      > in old Nyitra county in Hungary which Michael has identified for you.
      > "cz" is an obsolete Hungarian letter which has now been replaced by
      "c" and
      > is pronounced "ts."
      > Though Michael did not find this name in the Slovak phone book,
      there are 49
      > entries in the Hungarian phone book.
      > Just because the name related to the village of Tornoc does not mean
      > you would find people of that name in Trnovec nad Vahom today. In
      fact, a
      > person was probably given this name because he was "from Tornocz" to
      > distinguish him from others with the same given name. In other words, he
      > would probably not have been living there at the time but had moved
      > elsewhere. Also, family names were adopted several hundred years ago.
      > Finally, Mihaly is a Hungarian given name, not a Slovak one, so it is
      > unlikely that he was living in present-day Slovakia.
      > Unless you can locate information that would suggest where Mihaly
      lived, it
      > will be very difficult for you to locate relatives. Many of those in the
      > phone book live in Budapest, which is a very large city. Unless you have
      > already done so, I suggest you read about the 1956 Hungarian Revolution,
      > much of which took place in Budapest. If you are up to the task, you
      > try writing to all of those in the phone book to see if anyone remembers
      > Mihaly. To find their addresses, go to
      > http://www.magyartelekom.hu/english/main.vm and do an Advanced Search on
      > TORNOC, asking to search for similar names.
      > Good luck, Janet
      > _____
      > From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of Michael Mojher
      > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:25 PM
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [S-R] tornoczki
      > Julia,
      > Welcome to Slovak-Roots.
      > I couldn't find Tornoc in my Slovakia Atlas. A Google search says
      that it is
      > now called Trnovec nad Vahom. It is across the Vah River from the
      city of
      > Sala. Both are 32 km / 19miles east of Bratislava. Trnovec nad Vahom
      has a
      > population of 2500+. It is about 75% Slovak and 25% Hungarian.
      > Michael Mojher
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Julia Anderson
      > To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@ <mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:24 AM
      > Subject: [S-R] tornoczki
      > Dear All,
      > New member, just joined. I am looking to find my father
      > Mihaly Tornoczki who left Hungary in 1956. Date of birth 16 Sept
      1926. I do
      > not know from where he came in Hungary.
      > I'm also interested in finding any relatives.
      > I've been told that Tornoczki could have originated from the village of
      > Tornoc(z) which is now in Slovak, hence
      > I've joined this list. Please if anyone comes across a Mihaly Tornoczki
      > please let me know.
      > Kind regards
      > Julia Anderson
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